Wikipedia:WikiProject Go

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Welcome to the Go WikiProject. We are a group dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of the game of Go, known also as baduk, igo, and weiqi.

Go

Go is played on a grid of black lines (usually 19×19). The playing pieces, called stones, are played on the intersections of the lines.
Skills	Tactics, strategy, observation

Goals

To expand and improve articles in Category:Go (game), in particular adding diagrams and upgrading biographical pages and the coverage of go competitions around the world.

• To keep tabs on changes to Go-related articles. Here is a list of all the most recent edits to Go articles. (It's one of many to be found here.)

Scope

• Emphasis on professional go, and strategy.

We should in particular discuss some format issues for different types of articles, romanization of names, how to tabulate results.

To-do list for Wikipedia:WikiProject Go: edit · history · watch · refresh · Updated 2010-03-09 Here are some tasks awaiting attention: Article requests : historical list of milestones in Go Software; World Youth Go Championship; Copyedit : Go (board game) - undergoing GA review Expand : History of go, Diana Koszegi, Lee Chang-ho (more on his personal life), European Go Federation Stubs : Category:Go stubs Verify : History of go Other : Update the {{WikiProject Go}} tag at the head of the Discussion (Talk) pages of relevant articles, adding importance and quality attributes. Change the infobox of players who haven't been transferred yet to the Template:Infobox Go player. Also, same goes for go tournaments with Template:Go tournament.

See also: Category:WikiProject Go participants, which lists 24 editors (Sep. 2016).

We have a list of project members, indicating any areas of particular interest. Please see this subpage to view the list, or to add yourself.

Members may also display the following userbox on their User page, (taken from Template:User WikiProject Go):

This user is a participant in WikiProject Go.

Go-players are most welcome to display the following userbox on their User page, (courtesy of User:Scepia):

This user is a Go player.

      408 editors (verify) display this userbox as of July 2020.

• 960 editors have Go (game) on their watchlist as of July 2022 (verify).

• 338 editors have Go (board game) on their watchlist as of July 2022 (verify).

Article alerts (watch)—articles for deletion, proposed deletions, requested moves, etc.—are listed below. This section may be empty if there are no alerts currently active (which is common for this WikiProject).

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List of the most popular pages, updated monthly.

User:AlexNewArtBot/GoSearchResult (watch) lists newly created articles related to Go.

Any new articles that have an interesting or unusual fact in them should be suggested for the Did you know? box on the Main Page.

There is a discussion page on the Sensei's Library (SL) go wiki, designed to create interest in this project, and to provide a forum in which to discuss adaptation of material currently there on SL for WP.

Be warned that officially, Sensei's Library content is not compatible with Wikipedia content for raw copying - they use the Open Content License (OPL), a permissive license, but one that unfortunately never had an "upgrade path" added to it to either cc-by-sa or GFDL, which is what Wikipedia expects. That said, in practice, you can largely take from it with just minor rewriting (the differences are trivial and not one of intent) - just be warned that user-generated content like SL is not a "reliable source" WP:RS itself. (See https://senseis.xmp.net/?SLCopyright , https://senseis.xmp.net/?topic=1197 , https://senseis.xmp.net/?Wikipedia%2FCopyDiscussion ).

Collaboration of the week

Peer review

Assessment

• Category:Category-Class Go articles — Categories with {{WikiProject Go}} tagged in the Talk page
• Category:Go (game) — Category tree:

• Category:Template-Class Go articles — Templates with {{WikiProject Go}} tagged in the Talk page
• Category:Go templates — Category tree:

• Listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Culture/Games
• A travel guide at voy:Go, mainly about places where travellers can play or buy equipment.

for reference and consultation

• A Way of Play for the 21st Century (ISBN 0-9676096-1-5): 1999 book of go theory, written by Go Seigen

Bot-generated statistics (on articles having the project banner {{WikiProject Go}} on their talk pages).

For more information see:

Category:Go articles by quality

Category:Go articles by importance

[This section was added by Trafford09 (talk) 00:20, 20 December 2010 (UTC) and has been modified by others][reply]

Wikipedia has guidelines concerning the notability of living people. A question sometimes asked is: How strong a Professional rank must a Go professional enjoy, to be considered notable by Wikipedia? A quick and easy answer to this is that professional 4-dans (often denoted 4P) should be considered notable. This is because that level is the best estimate of a rank equivalent to a Chess Grandmaster.

This is the usually-accepted and researched opinion from an informed editor - lifelong Go and chess player (& WP admin.) User:Charles Matthews - that 4-dan pro and above [i.e. from 4-dan up to the highest (9-dan)] are on a par with chess grandmasters, hence notable in the Go world.

There is a separate section on the project Talk page to discuss whether we should change the above threshold; please obviously feel free to add your own views to others', there.

The strength of players should be compared to others in the same time period. By selecting threshold of 4d you would eliminate players from less strong countries e.g. Europe nowadays. An that seems to be unreasonable because these players play an important role in theirs countries or are important form the historical point of view. Theses players are of interest for many not only European players. To1al (talk) 06:05, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[This section was added by Trafford09 (talk) 00:15, 20 December 2010 (UTC)][reply]

In years gone by, before some of us joined Wikiproject Go, various editors commendably added BLP articles for many renowned Go Professionals. These editors' work is much appreciated. However, in some cases there were insufficient References, External links and inline citations added. As Wikipedia has, quite rightly, tightened up on these aspects, we are faced with a certain backlog of work in this area.

Editors looking for references to add to these BLPs are sometimes unaware of the richest sources for such links. Thus, the following sources are suggested as a help. Please add to them if you know of further ones.

E.g. to get results for the 9-dan Shuchi Kubouchi - like this, what we can do is:

1. Click on this link, (you may prefer to open it in a secondary tab or window). This opens up a list of all professional games on that site.
2. The box to the left of Search initially contains Date. Change it to say Player.
3. In the empty box to the left of Player, type in the player's given name and/or surname.
4. Click on the Search button. This should bring up a list of that player's results, and their rank.
5. If you didn't enter the player's full name, click on the player you're looking for, in the resulting list of games. This should limit the games to those in which that one professional played.
6. The resulting URL (as in the example above) is then available to use as a reference for that player.

E.g. to get results for the 9-dan Cho Chikun, like this: http://gobase.org/information/players/?pp=Cho+Chikun, what we can do is:

1. Use a link like the one above, with the player's name
2. This should bring up a list of that player's GoBase info..
3. The resulting URL (as in the example above) is then available to use as a reference for that player.
4. Also, look at the line within GoBase, that is entitled www. If it has a website shown (as it does for Cho Chikun), then that too is then available to use as a further reference for that player. A large proportion of such a web page may be in say Japanese, but it should clearly back up the claimed name, grade and affiliation.

E.g. to get results from the Nihon Ki-in for the 9-dan Cho Chikun, (http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/htm/ki000004.htm), what we can do is:

1. Construct a search within www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/ for the player concerned,
   e.g. use a URL like this one for Cho Chikun, and then modify the contents, for the name of the player you're seeking:
   http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cho+chikun+site%3Awww.nihonkiin.or.jp%2Fplayer%2F&hl=en&num=10&lr=&ft=i&cr=&safe=off&tbs=
2. The resulting search page lists the URLs for any entries for that player on the Nihon Kiin site.
   E.g. in the case of Cho Chikun, it lists two URLs (note that you have to add http:// in front):
   * http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/player-e/cho-chikun.htm and
   * http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/htm/ki000004.htm
3. The URL(s) thus shown are then available to use as reference(s) for that player.
4. The links would probably also show personal & professional details for the player - e.g. tournaments won, rank, DOB, where born, their sensei (master/teacher) & perhaps some of their insei (players whom they have taught). These details may be added to the player's WP article.

E.g. to get results from the American Go Association for the 6-dan player Mingjiu Jiang, what we can do is:

1. Construct a search within www.usgo.org for the player concerned,
   e.g. use a URL like this one for Mingjiu Jiang, and then modify the contents, for the name of the player you're seeking:
   http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Awww.usgo.org+Mingjiu+Jiang&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
2. The URL(s) thus shown (in this case 212 of them!) are then potentially available to use as reference(s) for that player. Common sense, allied with browsing the article's statements, will lead one to use the best URLs from those that appear.

E.g. to get results from the GoGameWorld for the 9-dan player Yamashita Keigo, what we can do is:

1. Construct a search within www.gogameworld.com for the player concerned,
   e.g. use a URL like this one for Yamashita Keigo, and then modify the contents, for the name of the player you're seeking:
   http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Awww.usgo.org+Mingjiu+Jiang&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&source=hp&q=site:www.gogameworld.com+Yamashita+Keigo&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=de610b7113b09eab
2. The URL(s) thus shown will hopefully contain at least one saying "Player Profile for Yamashita Keigo ...". Check it, and if it's ok then it is potentially available to use as a reference for that player.