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Many thanks for the kind words about the Harvey Ellis article! Cheers! -- Mwanner | Talk 23:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

about the reference here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_City-County_Building
Life is supposed to be interesting. But, this interesting?
Carptrash (talk) 02:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I recently had a bit on contact with Alois Lang's grand (great-grand?) son but have not managed to squeeze anything out of him yet. It is interesting to note how many of these (our) sculptor's descendants (after skipping a generation or so) are looking around for what can be found about gramps. ThanksG was at the McDonalds as always, and was, as always an interesting event. And you? Carptrash (talk) 18:13, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PS - you did notice the footnote/reference I put in on the Pittsburgh building? eeek

It's funny that you would ask... yes I do know about Mr. Coe. I would say his greatest work in Beaumont would be the Jefferson County Courthouse. It has some amazing detail work. He also did the First National Bank Building. Detailed pictures of this building can be found at houstondeco.org. I'm not sure what other buildings he has done, but I know someone who will know... Regrothenberger (talk) 02:18, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

from Emil Siebern's niece. Not much new info, but the stuff about the lawsuit against Charles Niehaus might be fun. Also the Black Hand trying to burn his house down. Not all that relevant, but good gossip value, and isn't that what history is really about? Carptrash (talk) 17:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Life is pretty busy, getting ready for winter, which I know will come tho it is still pretty warm in the days. Châteauesque has been bugging me for a while so I just decided to leap into it. Thanks for lossing our the red architect. I was wondering about him but was still assuming "good faith." Silly me. I'm at work - later. Carptrash (talk) 17:04, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Some time ago, you did a huge and very nice gesture checking the article “Ethereal being” and removing the copy-edit Tag. This article has been improved the last six months until few days ago some user(s) messed it and filled it with tags. Would be possible you check again the copy-edit issue, and remove the tag if seems ok to you? Ah, you may find strange the article, that’s because, after that, other user downsized all the images (not the ideal, but he said that were wp rules… kind of, I think). If you are too busy, don’t worry, I absolutely understand, Thanks anyway.

Hi Lockley, sorry I have forgot one other thing (if it is not too much asking). I started a stub to French philosopher Jean Chevalier, do you know who could have the expertise to expand his biography? Best, Hour of Angels (talk) 17:16, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there Lockley. Sorry take so long for appropriately replying you, I think I owe you a right expression of gratitude. So, I just would like to thank you for your assistance in “Jean Chevalier”. In fact I asked for others favors too, but of course, I appreciated anyway what you could to do. And specifically I’d like thank you for your words of encouragement made in that occasion (meant a lot of difference to me)and your frank sympathy. All best, Hour of Angels (talk) 15:08, 18 June 2011 (UTC).[reply]

I think the new labor template is a very positive addition. Thanks. Richard Myers (talk) 11:22, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What a great idea for an article! I had read of it several times, but never thought to make an article of it. Nice job. poroubalous (talk) 15:15, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

thanks, Poroubalous! --Lockley (talk) 19:12, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie Siringo and James McParland would seem to fit. best wishes, Richard Myers (talk) 06:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your work on the short film categories. However, please don't remove the parent category of Category:American films, even if it has sub-cat, per WP:FILMCAT. If you have a query about this, please raise it at the Film Project's talkpage. Lugnuts (talk) 19:10, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lockley, that's a great new feature started in the categorys of American silent films. Is that a bot or are you actually going through your paces linking up each film. While I'm not keen on too many categories, this new one sorts out 'features' from 'shorts' such as two-reelers and also 'serials' which are several films in one. Again great initiative . I don't know what's to happen to the old "American silent films" category, should we keep it as a supplementary category or do away with it. Also are you good with uploading film poster? I ask because of my bungling with The Barrier, a marvelous French release poster of this lost silent film. Thanks much again. Koplimek (talk) 16:48, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm doubtful about the 21 December 2011 edits made to William_Desmond_Taylor. I have seen no contemporary evidence that Taylor directed A Soul Astray, A Story of Little Italy, The Son of Thomas Gray, The Beggar Child, The Song of the Sea Shell, or A Slice of Life. Taylor's film career is fairly well documented, and I have seen nothing to indicate that he worked for American Film until 1915. IMDB is very unreliable. According to scholarly U.C. Santa Barbara web site http://www.filmandmedia.ucsb.edu/flyinga , A Soul Astray was directed by Thomas Ricketts; A Story of Little Italy and The Son of Thomas Gray were directed by Lorimer Johnston; The Beggar Child, The Song of the Sea Shell and A Slice of Life were directed by Henry Otto; Even if Taylor did direct those films (which I doubt), what makes them "notable"? They were not feature films and made no impact, then or afterward. If they are listed, then I suggest the "notable" adjective be deleted. Pikabruce (talk) 17:15, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've responded on the talk page for that article. --Lockley (talk) 20:14, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

and I still have not heard back from Nick. Life. What a place to live. Carptrash (talk) 01:23, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your voice, even in written form is the breath of life. No need to move anything, tho I'd like to keep the "Why the World Needs This Book" pages too, if possible. That was your doing but I use it as my webpage (when asked) a lot. SOme one has done a self-published book on Padducci that looks like .... it does not make sense. Someone I know has ordered it, I am quite interested to learn what it is. KM Oswald Hoepfner's grandkids have appeared - turns out that we more or less missed Hoepfner, who I think was a modeler in Perth Amboy for Ricci and/or Donnelley. Things - little things - are happening again. Carptrash (talk) 16:32, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

that Morley was connected with the Fisher Theater. Gadzoooks, it is a small world. The Morley house in Santa Fe is one of the original Pueblo Revival events, now surrounded by an 8 foot (give or take) wall. Morley's efforts as a spy in Central America during WWI is another odd moment. I received a disc in the mail, a friend is looking at it for me. Life here is even more intense than normal.

a kindly but knowledgeable wikipedian made us a map of all the architectural sculpture in the US - after I supplied him with all the zip codes. I plan on posting it somewhere here (wikipedia) and will let you know when it happens. It might look nice on our web site too. Life is . . . . . . . . . . . ....... complex. Carptrash (talk) 20:40, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

oh, that's great! when it appears (or when you send it over) I'll be glad to post it on our little web site. I've also been thinking about starting a Facebook group on the topic, as a place for friendly conversation & questions & stuff like that. What do you think? --Lockley (talk) 20:49, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm at work, and am not paid to think, but yeah, it all feels great. (Librarians operate mostly on feelings) When I get home I'll post and send the maps, and since HI and AK are seperate maps with little to show the Lower 48should do the trick. It looks great, tho I have not had the time to really enjoy it. Carptrash (talk) 20:53, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Come to think of it, I believe the map was sent to our embudo email address, so feel free to stop by. Carptrash (talk) 20:55, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

found it! that's a very good map! --Lockley (talk) 21:49, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It was from User talk:Magog the Ogre and I am trying to find out how/if he wants to be credited. Wanna give it a try? He (I assume) might like to hear from you anyway. It was a very sweet move - for an ogre anyway. Carptrash (talk) 22:38, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your recent articles, including Bayonne refinery strikes of 1915–1916. When you create an extensive and well referenced article, you may want to have it featured on Wikipedia's main page in the Did You Know section. Articles included there will be read by thousands of our viewers. To do so, add your article to the list at T:TDYK. Let me know if you need help, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:38, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Lockley. Thanks for the edit regarding the Selma Rome & Dalton Railroad reference within the convict leasing article. I think that there is still a problem in that the article includes a link to a Georgia and Alabama Railroad article that includes the statement: "The Georgia & Alabama railroad began operation on June 1, 1989..." Thus, it can't be the convict-lease-era Georgia & Alabama railroad, given the start date of 1989. (I was not sure if this comment should be on my talk page, your talk page, or the article talk page. Please let me know if I have responded inappropriately. Thanks. Cycloneta (talk) 04:09, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lockely, I like all the new dam articles you have been making, particularly List of United States Bureau of Reclamation dams which is a great overview to what they did in the west. I am curious though if you wouldn't mind adding Template:Infobox dam to anymore new articles you make. It will save an editor time later if they expand the article and you can plus the coordinates in for a map which can add context to an article w/o an image. Thanks.--NortyNort (Holla) 18:52, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A good thing about the infobox is that it will expand just as much as the info in it, even if it is a little. Great idea on the use, I thought we had everything in there. Most lists of dams include the uses and the infobox should too. I will get to it in a week or so and can update articles too. I will finally have some free time here shortly.--NortyNort (Holla) 00:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Faculty of Art Students League of New York, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:51, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for creating List of dams and reservoirs in Indiana With my good wishes

Tito Dutta ✉ 07:17, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi-I have another request. Lake Eau Claire is a reservoir in Eau Claire County, Wisconsin and it is connected to Lake Altoona. Lake Eau Claire has an hydroelectric dam. Would you be interested in starting an article please? Many thanks for your work on Wikipedia and for doing the Lake Altoona article.RFD (talk) 12:14, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks-RFD (talk) 20:43, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi-I remember Lake Neshonoc in La Crosse County, Wisconsin near West Salem has a dam. I think it was built during the administration of President Franklin Roosevelt. I thought you may be interested. Thanks-RFD (talk) 12:07, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

[1] nothing happens. Any theories? Carptrash (talk) 14:14, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

[2] being missing?
That has left several large holes, including some as a reference on wikipeida. But others too. Carptrash (talk) 15:52, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a semi-invalid )(or in-valid?) just back to work today (Thursday). Where I will be until 7 pm also tomorrow. I have been abandoned for the week-end while you-know-who is off with a girlfriend doing who knows what in Albuquerque. So I will just be hanging around, waiting for the phone to ring. Carptrash (talk) 19:05, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lockley, I noticed that you recently added some information to the Rasmussen Reports page. It looks like the information you added, as well as the reference that you cited, are already used in the article under the "criticism" section. I am new here and not sure how these things work, but should that information appear twice in the article? Let me know, thanks. Unlawfully blonde (talk) 01:17, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Unlawfully blonde. I wouldn't call that redundant. The first mention of Rasmussen's overall performance in 2010 is a short summary. In context it balances and corrects what would otherwise be a clearly promotional tone and multiple claims of accuracy. The second mention is longer and more detailed, and it belongs where it is, in the criticism section. I have to say, I don't see a problem. For a new user I have to congratulate you for being a very fast learner. Cheers. --Lockley (talk) 03:42, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that makes sense. But I am going to consolidate the references because it looks like the link you provided was already used twice in the article. --Unlawfully blonde (talk) 14:07, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to point out that all of those articles are referenced. Just not in the usual format. If you look at the IDF, IDP and IDM columns most of them have a link to a page at historicplaces.ca that references the entries in the article. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 23:22, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I changed them back. Must admit I hadn't thought about a note in the reference section. It would probably help. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 23:46, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

on your new updated figures.
I'd love to "clink", but both both my glass AND the bottle are empty. How 'bout I come over and help you finish yours off? Carptrash (talk) 02:29, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll pass Eva Emery Dye on to Kara, who just got a job at the University of Akron (all right - blue link) teaching Women's Studies. In fact, she seems to be the whole dept. Life is good - esp. Since other daughter Eila is no longer on STRIKE in Chicago. Carptrash (talk) 03:05, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I appreciate the fact that you are taking interest in French films. I have got the very film at home and over the years I watched it about ten times. Before I wrote the English article I read the German and the French Wiki article and I watched the film again while I wrote the article. All the information provided in this article is covered by the IMDB and Allmovie, except for the plot. I was once told that the film itself was a source for the film's content. Obviously it is not. So I removed it. Please tell what I can do better in the future. Shall I provide the ISBN number of a DVD release of the film? Does the PAL version suffice or is the ISBN number of the NTSC (American NTSC that it, of course) required as well? NordhornerII_The man from Nordhorn 02:15, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello again, thank you for your explanations and your recommendation. For some time now I have been busy with filmographies of successful French actors. Just today I added a wikitable to the biography of Karin Viard. Once I am done with my list, I will check existing film articles for possible improvements (like translating French role descriptions, adding infoboxes and more external links etc.)... I wrote the aforementioned article only because somebody had put the title into "my" wikitable (Belmondo's filmography) and providing an article of that very name was a way to get rid of a redlink (without hurting the feelings of the contributor). Thanks again. NordhornerII_The man from Nordhorn 01:02, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for you kind support for an article I started. I would be shocked and alarmed if it gets deleted. Edwardx (talk) 18:51, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

for the recognition, though I am not sure that these folks would agree. We'll see if there is ever an answer. Anyway your award (my award?) is a fine solid loking event and I'll display it with pride. Carptrash (talk) 15:02, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look, I've revised the article quite a bit. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 17:05, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See a follow-up film. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:20, 20 March 2013 (UTC) and thanks.[reply]

Hi, while reading on the article of Paul Philippe Cret, I noticed that there is an errant reference that doesn't point to any part of the article, First chapter of "The Civic Architecture of Paul Cret". I looked through the history, and I located the entry being yours. (diff page) I didn't want to guess what parts of the data were from the source, so I thought to ask you directly if you wanted to make the link into a proper ref. ~ Nelg (talk) 21:54, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nelg, I've simply moved it to the external links section. Cheers. --Lockley (talk) 22:01, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ah yes, ask and you will receive.Carptrash (talk) 23:17, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well I was banned from the Mens Rights Movement, which is just as well, I have other things to do. Like getting over my Dupuytren's contracture "proceedure". Which gave me a week off work so we are heading back to our old stompin' ground, Phoenix. Tomorrow. I don't know if you heard, Dad died just before Christmas, and in fact I have a pseudoarticle on him here. User:Carptrash/Einar Ragnarsson Kvaran Which I might have mentioned before. Anyway ...... how bout you? Carptrash (talk) 23:35, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good morning L. Today I get to toss my diet in the trash, starting with brunch in about 11 minutes. it a beautiful day, just right for . . ............. gardening? Carptrash (talk) 17:03, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, you had tagged the E-CellID page as lacking proper inline references which it was quite true, I wonder if after the changes I did you would consider it a good idea to remove the tag. The article is certainly very short, but I have my doubts on how interesting it can be for people. Is there a good way of knowing how many hits an article gets? Crati (talk) 17:49, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your kind words about my quality improvement efforts on the article, BLT cocktail, much appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 16:42, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

went on a stub spree for women artists who showed at the Armory Show. I see that you have discovered some of them and are actually making them work. Many thinks. Just back from Akron, Ohio with a bunch of buildings - well 4 or 5 - but am having trouble figuring them out. It turns out that no one has really "done" Akron before. I did meet (see Very random occurrence on way to airport) Don Drumm (sculptor) and got his picture but not much else. He did do a few architectural things. Anyway, I did add the picture to his article. Life. what a place to live. eeeeeeek Carptrash (talk) 21:38, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

One I have already posted - I found it in my Walker & Weeks book, but not that weird. The CCH had two nice lions (also posted) but another sort of Beaux-Arts event has two crazed lions up a few stories. That's the fun one but I have found nothing as to who what why when or where. Where is W Market St, but that's it so far. I should have worked up the Carnegie Library i a few days. I am not getting around well as I injured myself in the 44th Annual Hippies ve Indians softball game, in which I pitched 9 innings and lost 29 to 27. I HATE LOOSING.Carptrash (talk) 22:00, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the positive feedback. This one still needs work, but at least there is no shortage of sources. Thanks again, Aymatth2 (talk) 19:06, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the barnstar and your kind estimation. I did spend a lot of time researching the article, but one seldom gets feedback. I'm grateful. Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 00:06, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

a stack of Arizona Highways magazine to an institution nearby and in a 1962 one I discovered a nice article about Lawrence Tenney Stevens. brought back nice memories. I might grab a picture or two from it. Carptrash (talk) 15:31, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Almost as intersting is my attempt to get my grandfather into the University of Louisville Sports Hall of Fame. I got an encouraging reply from the soprts information deptartment ( or something) and now I move on to the next phase or two. Serious research and the writing out the application. Kara (aka Dr. Kvaran) arrives in a few days, for a a few days, and hopefully will get involved. Carptrash (talk) 17:10, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any reason you're emptying the categories for British women painters - for example Category:Welsh women painters has been nominated for speedy deletion as a result! Sionk (talk) 11:07, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your response but please discuss this on your talk page, not mine. The category problem Wikipedia encountered was the ghettoization of women writers, painters etc. All of the painters you removed from the category were also in a non-gender specific category. If you're going through a systematically emptying categories you need to discuss it and get agreement first - or propose the categories for deletion discussion. Sionk (talk) 18:05, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sionk, I disagree with you about the ghettoization matter, but I don't feel strongly about it. Sometimes I feel like wikipedia is a town with 10 citizens, 25 religious cult members, 25 history-bending politicians, 200 cheap lawyers, and 3000 motorcycle cops. As a fellow citizen perhaps sometimes you feel the same way. --Lockley (talk) 19:05, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, at least we are citizens who are talking to one another, which rarely seems to happen in real life ;) Sionk (talk) 19:53, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lockley,

In the Mammal Species of the World; Dipodinae [3] this subfamily belongs to Fischer, 1817, but two of the synonyms belongs to Dipodes Fischer de Waldheim, 1817 and Dipodum Fischer de Waldheim, 1817. Both Fischers wored in 1817. Could they be the same person? Or who might be the Dipodinae Fischer, 1817? Regards. DenesFeri (talk) 10:55, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DenesFeri -- just judging by his biography, those Fischers are likely to be the same person. He was working before and after his Russian ennoblement, which would have changed the citation in exactly that way. I'd have a look for any other Fischers doing taxonomy around the same time. Hope that helps. --Lockley (talk) 16:11, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Thank you, but meanwhile I found out that both abbreviations belongs to Gotthelf Fischer von Waldheim. Regards. DenesFeri (talk) 08:58, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

to see if I can get you to reply and thus lower your disgusting article-to-talk ration by even 0.0001%. Carptrash (talk) 21:39, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I understand now why you spend so little time on talk pages. Carptrash (talk) 14:49, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, The Cold War. recently ran across the story (I'd seen it before, but forgot it) that during Lend Lease World War Two, when the US was outfitting the Red Army, they requested condoms and wanted them all 12 inches long. So we sent them a million or whatever and labeled them all "Small." Those were the days. Carptrash (talk) 19:52, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nogales, Arizona, Santa Cruz County courthouse done. Carptrash (talk) 02:25, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Have not found the finial in the Zinc book yet, but I suspect that it's there or somewhere similar. The pediment looks like plaster, there do not seem to be the usual terra cotta seams but that does not really make sense either. Another mystery. Carptrash (talk) 15:00, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

my picture of Don Drumm (sculptor) ? Carptrash (talk) 23:30, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was visiting Dr. Kvaran in Akron and saw this large cor-ten sculpture and fell into talking to a neighbor about it and she told me that the sculptor lived two blocks away. Viola! A picture. Also just got back from Phoenix and my dentist in Nogales, Mexico, so have another building, Nogales, Arizona, a church, to add to our collection. A few days away. And you? Carptrash (talk) 00:13, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The courthouse is a done deal - with a nice Justice finial and an . . . . ....... interesting pediment filled with symbolism way beyond me. In fact, give it a try, see what you think. Good luck in loosing those pounds, it's always a high priority for me too, esp. after a trip to Phoenix. Carptrash (talk) 00:42, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your recent articles, including Jan Cybis, which I read with interest. When you create an extensive and well referenced article, you may want to have it featured on Wikipedia's main page in the Did You Know section. Articles included there will be read by thousands of our viewers. To do so, add your article to the list at T:TDYK. Let me know if you need help, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 19:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your recent articles, including Jan Cybis, which I read with interest. When you create a new article, can you add the WikiProject assessment templates to the talk of that article? See the talk page of the article I mentioned for an example of what I mean. Usually it is very simple, you just add something like {{WikiProject Keyword}} to the article's talk, with keyword replaced by the associated WikiProject (ex. if it's a biography article, you would use WikiProject Biography; if it's a United States article, you would use WikiProject United States, and so on). You do not have to rate the article if you do not want to, others will do it eventually. Those templates are very useful, as they bring the articles to a WikiProject attention, and allow them to start tracking the articles through Wikipedia:Article alerts and other tools. This can help you too, as the WikiProject members will often defend your work from deletion and try to improve it further. Feel free to ask me any questions if you'd like more information. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 19:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think it was you who have introduced the phrase "Polish National Historic Monuments" ([4]) which now appears in a number of articles ([5]). First, thank you for starting this. Second, I believe that the name is incorrect, it should be [Polish] "Historic(al) Monuments", without National (or Polish), as pl name is pomnik historii. I've created a list that is redirected from Historic Monument (Poland), a term which is now properly explained in the parent Objects of cultural heritage in Poland. I'd appreciate if you could help fix the term as used in the 20 or so articles I listed above in this fashion (and I guess the text in the infobox should be changed from "National Heritage of Poland" to "Historic(al) Monument [of Poland]"?. Please note, I am not sure if Historic or Historical is better, feel free to comment on talk of the list and fix the usage in affected articles. Thank you, --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:14, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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		For your assistance with the pomnik historii-series of articles, I, Piotrus, award you The Polish Barnstar of National Merit, 2nd Class. I hope you'll help us improve more Poland-themed articles! Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:49, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks. Just a comment: per WP:RED, and given all rivers are notable, all black river names should be linked even if it makes them red, I think. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:47, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If any of your red links are removed such fashion, please let me know and I'll investigate. I think removing red links is close to vandalism, and as such I feel it is important to intervene in such cases. (Yes, I am one of those people who feels strongly about this... :>). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:23, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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	For your hard work on proper categorization of entries. Thank you! :-D Daniele.tampieri (talk) 17:03, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

as usual. I am inclined to rename Stripped Classicism with a small "c". Any thoughts? I mostly did this article because I am tired of seeing the term used, even red linked but there being no definition. But you understand all this. How's tricks? Carptrash (talk)

Email sent. Carptrash (talk) 22

10, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Stripped Classicism is a brand new article. If we can work together to make it long enough (I need your help), I would be pleased to nominate it for a WP:DYK, and list all the contributors as creators. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:02, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments. Needs your input and help. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:04, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lockley! As a Steward I'm involved in the upcoming unification of all accounts organized by the Wikimedia Foundation (see m:Single User Login finalisation announcement). By looking at your your account, I realized that you don't have a global account yet. In order to secure your name, I recommend you to create such account on your own by submitting your password on Special:MergeAccount and unifying your local accounts. If you have any problems with doing that or further questions, please don't hesitate to ping me with {{ping|DerHexer}}. Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 11:25, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

some obscure artist, Clarence Holbrook Carter and looked in the history and there you were. I thought I'd take this moment to thank you for the x-mss card, it grew rave reviews from Ragnar & Mom, both tough critics. Now back to Ohio in List of United States post office murals the largest chunk of straight data entry that i've ever done here, but it is nearing to a close. Life is supposed to be interesting. Love to all, Carptrash (talk) 18:22, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 27 February 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Stripped Classicism, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Stripped Classicism. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Allen3 ^talk 12:29, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

architecture parlante
Thank you for quality articles, starting ten years ago with Guastavino tile, now Stripped Classicism, done in collaboration, for gnomish page curation, redirects and "cats of cat", for starting templates and articles such as Architecture parlante, for thinking about liberty in distress, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:29, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Five years ago, you were recipient no. 1144 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:36, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have returned the Hilo Massacre to the "American Labor Conflicts" template, with a note on the talk page. Doprendek (talk) 19:22, 19 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The article Lyndall Bass has a slight error: The date-of-birth (the one inside the list that contains the activities the person does, on the top) is written in British English and needs to be changed to American English because the article is written in American English. Also it doesn't contain Lyndall's age. NOTE: Although one of Wikipedia's primary rules for users is to respect all national varieties of English, my request is in no way trying to violate the rules of Wikipedia in any way.

Lockley, would you accept a revised red link guideline that requires a minimum of three blue links to existing stand-alone articles or lists, with at least 50% of all included links being blue, coupled with the clarification of the existing "succession" and "complete set" exceptions? Personally, I think that would be an extremely reasonable compromise, and if I can get 10 committed supporters, I'm ready to start lobbying previous !voters (not a violation of WP:CANVASS) in favor of compromise. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 00:20, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That seems very reasonable and I'll support it. I can't think of any counterexamples I'd consider valid. There's a minor question about whether or not filmographies count as complete sets. My true underlying concern is about templates that look complete but are not, so (excuse me as I reason through this) my concerns are limited to that "complete set" exception. You're doing good work here, thank you! Lockley (talk) 01:02, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OH, I would also want the same logic applied to Wikipedia:Navigation templates. Procedurally I don't know whether we do that all in one go, or in parallel, or whatever, but it would be silly to do it separately. And yes I said "we", meaning, I'll help. Lockley (talk) 01:07, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. It's a simple matter to cross-reference WP:NAVBOX to WP:REDLINKS. I'm going to see how much more support I can drum up for this alternative. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:09, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lockley, I'm sure you know the details better than I, but I understood the info wouldn't be removed systematically until bots had gone through and made sure all the data had been migrated to Wikidata. -- GreenC 14:14, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Green Cardamom:. Lots of discussion about this. Lots of calories expended. The result is that persondata has been deprecated and is to be removed. The bots have been fixed to prevent creating persondata templates from new articles, shutting the gate on new creation. Wikidata already has all the useable existing data that could be mass-migrated, because the data is squishy (inconsistent formatting, evident vandalism, Julian v Georgian dates, etc). So there's some 1.2M articles with persondata that might have some data worth preserving. As of today the current discussion is how that's going to happen, whether manually or by bot, and you can read through that here to get a flavor. Maybe there will be a bot. Maybe not a bot. I'm going through manually to eyeball whether persondata contains unique data worth saving, like aliases and whatnot, and I haven't found a single article where that's true. Lockley (talk) 19:06, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanks for the info. That's a good method to go through manual and learn the particulars. 1.2M is so many that it defies imagination that it would ever get done without a bot. It would be a huge waste of limited community resources to ask people to remove it manually. If anyone wants help writing a bot I can do that but I'm sure there are better coders on it already. -- GreenC 21:45, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On 14 November 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article New City Hall (Prague), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when the New City Hall in Prague was new in 1911, it had two paternoster lifts (schematic pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/New City Hall (Prague). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Category:TransCanada Corporation dams, which you created, has been nominated for upmerging to Category:TransCanada Corporation. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 12:15, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Category:PPL Montana dams, which you created, has been nominated for renaming to Category:NorthWestern Corporation dams. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 19:24, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

was listening to NPR, the local Phoenix edition the other day and heard an article about a theatre (?) that was about to get quashed and one of the folks that was interviewed was a former local named Walt Lockley. Just a coincidence, I am sure. Carptrash (talk) 18:31, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

hey Einar! that's great! glad somebody heard it! and yup, local theater baron Dan Harkins just closed the Camelview 5, over by Fashion Square Mall. It's to be torn down. The architect was from Chicago, a devout Catholic and a forward-looking modernist, both at once. Some of his other work, get a load of [6] this -- more importantly, how are you? --Lockley (talk) 22:12, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine - coming off a cold that has hung around for too long and mostly makes me want to take a nap. Again. My trip to the NW didn't happen, the person i was going to drive for decided to use pods instead, for which I am thankful except I was looking forward to being there. Oh well. Et tu? Nice article about your architect too - though no real chance of a ny sculpture on his stuff.Carptrash (talk) 19:00, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I've been dodging tomatoes and eggs the whole time. Now I don't feel alone lol.

But seriously, I wanted to poke your brain on something. I wanted to know your response to a question I posed to your post here. I appreciate your participation. Mitchumch (talk) 08:32, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Mitchumch: -- is it the question, "what sources am I using to validate the use of the term 'Civil Rights Movement'? If so, I have no sources either way, but I wasn't making any claims. Just going by my own sense of the term. I've come around to your way of thinking that the title "African-American Civil Rights Movement (1865–95)" and the other one are anachronistic, literally imposing today's values and terminology on history. That remains a valid issue, and the way that whole "Nadir" article is framed is a valid issue, and I might work in this space for awhile, although NOT on my short-lived idea. best to you Lockley (talk) 08:52, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for responding. I just was curious. Your statements regarding the term "Civil Rights Movement" in the talk pages reflects virtually all encounters I've had with Wikipedia editors. I just don't understand where that idea comes from. Whenever I ask people for reliable sources, no one will provide one. I'm not sure what to do to correct it. I thought reliable sources would trump unsourced claims. However, the term "Civil Rights Movement" seems to have an unwritten exception to the rule. It's like I missed a meeting or didn't get the memo or something. Anyhow, thanks for taking the time to answer my question. Mitchumch (talk) 09:27, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

If you can, is it possible you look at the question I ask on Talk:Film Polski? I'm working on an article related to it on FR:Wikipédia so I would be interested to know if you have the information. Thanks.--Soboky (talk) 10:16, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for adding this source to McComb, Mississippi. The source doesn't provide the text of the book though. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 01:11, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The second link you added does not bring back text. It's not a free book. Do you have a link to a source that can be viewed? Thank you again. Magnolia677 (talk) 03:14, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Congratulatios to Lockley for taking the poorly organized US-centric article Anti-union violence and turning it into a tightly written, readable article of properly world-wide scope. And in working on this and other labor-related articles, adhering to a disciplined NPOV writing style.Plazak (talk) 02:36, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Good job on Anti-union violence. Now, how about doing the same thing to the Union violence article, which has the same US-centric problem? Regards. Plazak (talk) 14:54, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the editsummary of my revert of your edit here. Debresser (talk) 07:17, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Debresser. I see your good-faith reversion of my edit. Your reversion is not consistent with the guidance about the Persondata removal project. See this Kasparbot project page, which explains that 100% of the Persondata data was already captured for future use in Wikidata as of 23 Nov 2015. That page goes to explicitly say, "Is it safe to remove "Persondata" manually? Yes, it is. The dataset was entirely copied in November 2015. KasparBot will remove all transclusions but there is nothing to be said against doing it manually." That's also consistent with previous guidance & conversation about persondata. If you have a different source I'd be glad to look at it. All best. --Lockley (talk) 17:32, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation. Please excuse my ignorance. I self-reverted . Debresser (talk) 19:06, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for your prompt fix --Lockley (talk) 20:49, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Labor spy is another labor-related article with, as far as I can see, entirely U.S. content. Is there any reason not to just rename the article to reflect this: Labor spying in the United States? Also, the over-enthusiastic author added so much material that has nothing to do with the topic (but belongs in the more general article, Union busting), that the genuine labor spy material is sometimes drowned out. Your input would be appreciated. Thanks. Plazak (talk) 13:34, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

lease see my proposal to speedily upmerge Category:Former hotels to Category:Defunct hotels and Category:Former hotels in Manhattan to Category:Defunct hotels in Manhattan Hugo999 (talk) 09:14, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

well, that makes perfect sense. --Lockley (talk) 20:31, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

and it does not get any better than perfect. Carptrash (talk) 22:26, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I just walked in from seeing the new Jason Bourne movie with Ragnar, we see about 1 flic a year and this was it. Both enjoyed it but it will make neither's Top 500 films list. Other than that, sort of depressed since Mom died and not sure what to do with rest of life, so am doing a fair amount of diddly diddly do editing on wikipedia. No deep thinking stuff just lists and the like. Sort of slow motion, one little edit at a time sort of thing. I realized that Mom did leave me a TV so started watching the Arizona Diamondbacks, who have been outscored 45 to 7 or something in the last few games, so probably will remember why i stopped in the first place. Et tu? Carptrash (talk) 22:42, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I too (if I may project into your head) find that complaining takes too much energy, so content my self with debunking all the "Obama is a Muslim" sort of BS that my "friends" seem to think I need to know about. Life. Who knew? Carptrash (talk) 01:27, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Thank you for adding templates to so many US correctional institution articles. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:12, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(weren't we?) see what you make of this:
https://www.britannica.com/technology/spandrel-architecture
If you don't get it, feel free to ask, none of my family, for example, get it. Carptrash (talk) 18:43, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

is it that the Britannica doesn't know a Library of Congress when it sees one? Did they steal your photo? I guess I gotta ask! --Lockley (talk) 19:29, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well they didn't steal my picture, but they did get it for free from wikipedia. (Bela Pratt) However if we use something of theirs - expect a call from the legal department. On the plus side, I can now say that the Encyclopedia Britannica uses my work. Building a case for my notability, in case it is questioned. Carptrash (talk) 19:45, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You might find the articles that you've followed on the Mississippi prison meltdown particularly interesting, right now. I created the article, "Operation Mississippi Hustle," and you've already seen the Walnut Grove Correctional Facility and Chris Epps article, I think. Activist (talk) 21:09, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for the heads-up, @Activist:. I've done just a bit of work in and around Operation Mississippi Hustle, and I have it bookmarked as well. All best to you --Lockley (talk) 22:58, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I assumed it was okay to remove the notice, but wanted to look it up or get feedback before I did so. I'd put in the (see also| ) and figured that satisfied the requirement, but wasn't sure. Thanks for your other work on format. I was going back and forth to the Walnut Grove article and someone had really hashed it up yesterday. I tried to fix it and finally decided to remove the work that had been done and recreated that part. One last thing. I don't know how one gets the edit function up for individual sections. Can you tell me how that works? I've only created a few articles in the ten years I've been editing, so I'm pretty green, in that respect. Activist (talk) 23:43, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Activist, good on you looking after the Walnut Grove article. From what I can tell, those contributions you corrected looked to be made in good faith by another editor, and I hate to be too critical about constructive users. There's lots of news to keep up with, plus the pattern of IP users removing less-than-complementary content about private prisons. I don't know quite what you mean about the edit function for individual sections.... I'm normally prompted to edit sections, with two exceptions I can think of. If I'm looking at a historical revision, there's no prompt. And I think there's some sort of tag similar to NOTOC that suppresses those prompts. I hope Help:Section might be a good starting point to solve your issue. best --Lockley (talk) 06:06, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the program automatically may insert the section edit functions when there are about four sections in the article. Are you going to the Wikipedia conference in S.D.? Activist (talk) 08:05, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Have a look at Rio Grande Detention Center -- do you see an edit link for the references section? Reading through Help:Section#Section_editing tells me that some things about sections can be changed in your Preferences, within Gadgets, for instance you can show them over to the right of the page. The command I was trying to think of is "NOEDITSECTION", which will suppress all of the section edit links. None of this helps you, I realize -- and no, whether San Diego or South Dakota, I wouldn't know what to do with myself at a wikipedia conference. I would watch my grammar, probably. Are you going? --Lockley (talk) 08:26, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, am going. Does your grammar need watching? Activist (talk) 18:54, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In the words of Orson Welles, "Yes, always." --Lockley (talk) 18:56, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I feel foolish for not thinking of this building. Especially since I started the article on its sculptor, Edward Maene. Thanks for adding it. Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 12:14, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought, Maene (and his crew) may have been the carver(s). I'll leave it as it is for now. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 13:16, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @BoringHistoryGuy:, how are you? I'm having fun, going more slowly than I'd like, but I'm happy to stick an architect's name on that Covington library, for instance, that most of the web doesn't seem to know about. About the UPenn law building, I'll certainly go ahead and credit E. Maene as carver if only to link to your excellent article. That's a good article. I've counted up, and there's 34 pediments on our list that aren't on yours. Yet. I'll post over there in a minute. All best to you & happy election day -- --Lockley (talk) 18:24, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Happy election day?" Like that is possible? Carptrash (talk) 18:28, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely possible. Concentrate on whether or not the triangular spinachy-eagley business on the Old Boston Post Office counts as a pediment, for example. Result? Happy election day. --Lockley (talk) 18:33, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going with tequila in my corn flakes today. And forget that spinach, I am opposed to that stuff always, but is the old PO missing from Gordon? Seems to be. The article says the groups (by DCF) were given to Boston, but where are they? Carptrash (talk) 19:22, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I got 'em! you should come get a look at them. --Lockley (talk) 19:25, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the compliment. I only had heard of Maene as a furniture maker -- Will Price's go-to-guy -- when I began the article. But I knew his work at Washington Memorial Chapel was exceptional.

Always happy to see more pediments. Speaking of happy, I hope we all have a happy election day (and election result). Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 20:49, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Lockley. I'm not sure what you were trying to do with your recent edit. The original 1908-09 bank building had no pediment, although the NRHP nomination argues that its Ionic columns probably were reused when the portico & pediment were added, which seems to be 1931-32. Here's a photo from 1909.[7] Am I getting this wrong? Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 01:22, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I was trying to make a mistake, @BoringHistoryGuy:, and you stopped me. Thank you! I'd revert, but I see you've fixed it already. --Lockley (talk) 04:18, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. The NRHP nomination is confusing, which I why I looked for other sources. Have a great Thanksgiving. Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 12:13, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am looking for your opinion and insight (and perhaps original research too) on the question at the end of the Found a pair of murals in the wild section on my talk page. Carptrash (talk) 23:02, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that, and of course you know I'm 80% interested, and I'd want to help. I'm still stuck in pediment-land, but it's paying off. --Lockley (talk) 23:09, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lafayette College and Germantown High. Two examples in my back yard (well, Easton's not) that I didn't know about. Well done. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 03:47, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @BoringHistoryGuy:, and thanks -- more to come, if not all in your neighborhood -- --Lockley (talk) 04:04, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Great. Drop our mutual friend an email. He's had a miserable couple days. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 13:05, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(will do, thx for the heads up) --Lockley (talk) 17:01, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so very much for your revisions of Coal miners' strike of 1873. The entry reads much better. It's great that you added information from the Tuscarawas Valley. My only objection is this sentence in the Afterward: "The 1873 strike was one of many in the region, with the Panic of 1873 an underlying cause." The Panic of 1873 began in October of that year, but the walkouts began in January ^[1]. WarrenRicheyKid WarrenRicheyKid (talk) 03:40, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

that was actually in the cited source but the phrasing has been fixed up to cover it. Article looks pretty good now, all best --Lockley (talk) 19:16, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

I am searching for this film for a beloved friend … And it's hard to get. You have edited the article about it. Can you send me a copy, please? For sure I can send you some money via PayPal or somehow else. Kind regards Mr. A. (You can also write to hallo-mra@gmx.at) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.127.243.237 (talk) 05:38, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your support and additions on the GEO Group article. Found more financial info to add (riots at one facility in 2008-2009 costing $21 million.) Parkwells (talk) 21:35, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

you're doing good work over there! --Lockley (talk) 21:50, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

question, i see the map on Category:Flora of Mexico. doesnt that follow angular boundaries rather than ecological ones?68.151.25.115 (talk) 05:42, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes indeed. The WGSRPD divided Mexico into seven regions. Five of those regions are composed of collections of Mexican states, so those boundaries are political boundaries. Number six IS a Mexican state, Veracruz. Number seven is the three Mexican Pacific Islands. --Lockley (talk) 05:54, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

im wondering why are flora and fauna being divided up politically?68.151.25.115 (talk) 09:18, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

it seems like WP:OCLOCATION. hope to hear from you soon68.151.25.115 (talk) 09:25, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well for flora we want to be specific, within reason, about where species can be found, that's essential information "directly related to the subjects' characteristics", which answers OCLOCATION. Furthermore the sources I've used commonly identify the location of Mexican species down to state. That happily nests in a clean way with the WGSRPD scheme and the rest of the grand supercategory in wikipedia, because the experts at the WGSRPD divide flora up politically. It's the best alternative, short of a global standardized biogeographic regionalization scheme, which we don't got. Locating fauna in political bounds defensible on the same grounds IMO. Does that help I hope? --Lockley (talk) 10:16, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

thank you. now the redlist link youve linked here links to the state and not a region. is it still not oclocation?68.151.25.115 (talk) 23:45, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

already explained. I'm confident that it does not violate OCLOCATION to categorize Mexican fauna by Mexican state. Physical locations of all flora are "directly related to the subjects' characteristics". State information is (1) available from sources (2) reasonably specific without being too specific (3) consistent with the WGSRPD classifications. If you have an objection to sorting biotic entities into political locations, then you have an objection to about half of this category tree. Is that the case? --Lockley (talk) 00:14, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

im just wondering about categorization as it has been some time since i worked in the area. maybe the issue can be revisited in the future. best.12:56, 5 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.151.25.115 (talk)

Hi, I've been following the good work you've been doing on categorizing more precisely the known distribution of spiders. It's certainly helpful to break up North and South America. I am wary of going too far, though – Brazil, certainly; Argentina – well, ok; smaller countries I would oppose – the distribution of spiders is simply not sufficiently well known, and political boundaries are not the important ones. Consider Category:Spiders of India – does this really mean the country of India, i.e. excluding Pakistan, Nepal, Bhutan and Bangladesh? Or does it mean the Indian subcontinent? Peter coxhead (talk) 06:09, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Peter coxhead:, I've noticed your work in this area as well, and thanks for the encouragement. Don't worry, I've reached the same conclusion about applying geographical categories to spiders and other living things that move around. Having some kind of location information is essential. Using political divisions is regrettable but convenient. Aaaand getting too specific is unwise. There is more basic work to be done -- missing refs. I'm finding taxonomic articles an interesting set of data to work on, and think about, at this scale, because of the way it's structured, irregular, and unfinished all at once. Just today I was also educated by this list. best --Lockley (talk) 08:10, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think about my specific issue with Category:Spiders of India? Consider Phoroncidia testudo. This occurs in India and Sri Lanka, according to the WSC. It's currently categorized into "Spiders of India", which is clearly incomplete. So either it has to be re-categorized into Category:Spiders of Asia, which seems too broad, or we have to create Category:Spiders of Sri Lanka, which seems too narrow. Without an equivalent to the WGSRPD for animals, the geographical categories that have been used for different groups seem to me to be entirely arbitrary. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:46, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

To respond in detail, Category:Spiders of India belongs to a spiders-by-country overcat and seems like a political subdivision. Phoroncidia testudo would be best be categorized as Asian given the current categories available, ALTHOUGH in this particular case, it's not crazy to consider the creation of Category:Spiders of Sri Lanka. It's an island nation with a high number of endemic species and signs that the category would be well-populated. I wouldn't have used the word "arbitrary" about the geographical classification of fauna but I'd agree that it needs some common-sense attention and perhaps some guidelines. --Lockley (talk) 18:05, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Although I agree that we could create Category:Spiders of Sri Lanka, and there's some logic in that it's an island, the arbitrariness lies in the fact that there happen to be a few active Sri Lankan editors who have created the lists to which you refer, whereas there aren't such editors for Borneo or New Guinea, say. It also seems very odd to me that Category:Spiders of Europe is subdivided by many (but not all) families, whereas no other 'continent' is. Peter coxhead (talk) 18:52, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Great work you're continuing to do on spider categorization! I suspect there are enough spiders with a cosmopolitan distribution to have Category:Cosmopolitan spiders as a subcategory of Category:Cosmopolitan arthropods. What do you think? Peter coxhead (talk) 20:53, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you kindly, and that's a fine idea. I'll start using it. And we'll talk at some point about other issues and ideas that arise. I see what you mean about Asia. And about Sri Lanka.... --Lockley (talk) 22:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Spiders of Sri Lanka. Didn't Roger Corman make a movie with that title? Carptrash (talk) 23:59, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:State prisons in Hawaii has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 00:08, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You participated in the RFC Talk:List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America. The section you commented in has been collapsed so I've moved your comment to the main section. Please review my edit and correct it if necessary. D.Creish (talk) 19:03, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

her first husband. Who is not a blue link, just our little secret. Carptrash (talk) 00:50, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

blimey that's very intriguing. How are you? How's it going down there? --Lockley (talk) 01:36, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I will send you a copy of the email I just sent Violet. Well without the mushy stuff. Carptrash (talk) 08:07, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Carptrash#Tiaras == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 02:59, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bless you! deisenbe (talk) 19:47, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm inclined to think you're right, and 1909 is a more likely date for the posing for Isidore Konti. The unfortunate thing is that it almost eliminates the possibility that Munson posed for French's Mourning Victory, since the Melvin Memorial was dedicated on June 16, 1909. Rush job? @Carptrash: Did Munson ever claim to have posed for Mourning Victory?
The opening of a new ballroom would have been a big deal. Maybe there's something about it in the newspapers. In any case, thanks. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 02:06, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @BoringHistoryGuy: -- with your permission I'll answer this over at Talk:Audrey Munson -- --Lockley (talk) 03:02, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I just read it there. Good job! == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 03:09, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations,
you are one of a very select few
to receive this
seldom coveted award.
Carptrash (talk) 20:13, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That, I like very much. I still think Audrey might have burned down a barn or two, so a barn star is appropriate. There might have been a few red-hot barn stars glowing in the coals afterward. thank you! --Lockley (talk) 20:38, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Carptrash: I just noticed that you were the editor who began this article, in 2008. I recently got a bit obsessive expanding it (all right, obsessively obsessive). But I think it now lists all his major works. Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 17:29, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but before you give me that Barn Star, another look might reveal that it was the notorious User:Lockley who started it. But it's okay, a lot of people get us confused and some have even suggested that we are one-and-the-same. Carptrash (talk) 18:11, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Whooops, @BoringHistoryGuy: I thought this was on my user page. Sort of proves my hypothesis, does it not? Carptrash (talk) 18:19, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So, User:Lockley is a sock puppet for User:Carptrash? Quick, call the Wiki police! == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:27, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No, no, it's the other way around. Spread false rumors and you'll get blocked. Too. Carptrash (talk) 18:32, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well, whichever is which, it was a lot of fun working together on Audrey Munson. Both (or all 3) of us. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:52, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Im cleaning up some mess up articles that are terrible or not notable its because I cant requst on WP:Afd talk page anymore as they have limits. can you nominate into afd if you can on these articles of Jacob Rica, Cindy Kurleto, Geoff Eigenmann, Paolo Contis, Wendell Ramos, DM Sevilla and Yam Laranas as they are non-notable people with poor sourcing. I would thank you so much if you did it. Cleaning is caring =). 221.148.3.71 (talk) 04:23, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, no thank you. AfD has limits, I have limits too. These are all Filipino actors. Not my area of interest or expertise, and right now I'm looking for a source to differentiate the ghetto riots in the U.S. in the 1960s from the disruptions brought about by the civil rights movement, the white pushback on peaceful marches like what happened to Reverend King at the Marquette Park rallies in 1966, where he faced worse violence and hated, he said, than anything in the South. Those two kinds of riots were happening concurrently from 1964 to 1968, but were two very different species. But of course I can't just put that in the article, that would be OR, I need to find a source that says it. Plus I'm thinking about the linkbacks from ghetto riots to do, but I don't want to do those before the name change, so I should push the name change forward on the talk page, right? If you have an opinion, drop in. Plus, frankly, I was struck by one of the conclusions of the Kerner Commission was that the violence of the ghetto riots was self-destructive, yes, enormously dumb, you bet, and there were dozens of fatalities, but across all this uncoordinated summer uprising, the initial violence every time was aimed at symbols and structures of oppressive power, not aimed at people. See, in the U.S., up through the 1960s and 70s, at a federal level the definition of "violent crime" in legislation varied somewhat, but it was usually a fairly tight list of crimes against persons. Then in 1984 with the Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984 the Reagan-era congress took that term "crime of violence", gave it formal meaning, gave that phrase extra magic disciplinary powers such as "enhanced" prison sentences, and also chiseled in stone a standard definition expanded to cover persons -- or property. Suddenly we had violence against property. That's an important threshold we don't think about too much. We loosely use that word "violence" but there's a range of possible destruction, right. Looking in retrospect. It's possible that where the ghetto rioters avoided hurting other people, where they only broke store windows and burned cars, they showed virtuous restraint compared to the white rioters attacking the bodies of Rev. King and marchers. So that's the real difference between the two kinds of riots. Now, can all that fit into this encyclopedia. We're going to find out. Anyway, thanks for letting me talk atcha, man, but you can see I got my own head full right now. --Lockley (talk) 10:39, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the addition, Lockley. @Carptrash: This might interest you, too.
I've long wanted to write something about Alfred Bendiner, and a couple issues from today brought me back to him.

Racism: He collected racist cartoons to document the history of America's attitudes toward blacks, including the notorious Life in Philadelphia (1828-1830). He donated that collection to the Library of Congress.

Spanish Flu: He wrote a detailed first-person account of Philadelphia during the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic, the hardest hit city in the U.S. October 1918 was a month of horrors, with the city streets empty, except for an occasional Model-T with a coffin sticking out of the back, the family forced to transport the body to the cemetery themselves. Bendiner and his father both were infected, but recovered.

Immigrants: My favorite Bendiner column was about his family's New Year's Eve tradition. His parents came to America in the 1890s, not quite as refugees, but to escape the anti-Semitism of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. New Year's Eve was exciting as a boy, because it was the one day of the year that he was allowed to drink wine. His mother put him and his 4 siblings to bed right after supper, and woke them around 10:00 pm. They all bundled up and rode a streetcar into the center of the city, and walked to Independence Hall. His father poured out a cordial glass of sherry for each and, as the tower bell began pealing in the new year, made a toast: "God bless the United States."

You can find many of Bendiner's cartoons online, and I'm sure you'll enjoy them. It's a shame that they remain non-PD.
Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 13:31, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Since the "unencyclopedic tone" tag is rather ambiguous in specificity, can you review my recent edits and remove the tag if satisfactory. Appreciate it. - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:52, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @LuckyLouie: -- tone tag resolved and removed as requested. We clearly agree on this one. all best --Lockley (talk) 19:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Lockley, I am trying to clean and correct the tone of the page you tagged. I edited the article, rephrased or deleted the statements. I also deleted some of the quotes as I have found it over-quoted. I hope I didn’t delete too much (I wouldn’t like to be tagged for vandalism). I respect other’s work, but want to give it a proper form (according to the Manual of Style/Biography and BLP). Could you please advice me whether I should edit something more or rephrase some parts or quotes? Thank you very much for your time. (Bibliof (talk) 07:38, 3 July 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Hello @Bibliof:, I appreciate your good-faith efforts to improve Lubo Kristek. I've had a closer look at it. The article at its most expansive had quite a lot of aesthetic trivia in it, which has been cut back. And it already had a COI cleanup tag on it before I came along, so nobody could reasonably accuse you of vandalism. I'd encourage you to keep at it (if you want to). There's more to do. For example part of the lead paragraph still says: "In his assemblages, he addresses dangers of consume approach, addiction to new technologies, and questiones (sic) the medical ethics... In happenings, he studies the crowd behavior, explores the border between performer and audience, and also the death taboo." One expects claims of notability in the first paragraph, the artist took a prize at the Lyon Biennial, taught at Stuttgart, etc. What we get aren't accomplishments. Not to be harsh, they're not even verifiable facts. They're artistic intentions. The article is still shot through with Lubo Kristek's intentions. The cs, de and fr versions are more convincing about Kritek's place in the encyclopedia, perhaps because they exist to begin with, perhaps because I can't read them. Best to you, happy editing --Lockley (talk) 14:11, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your advice. I am trying to get rid of the intentions in the whole article, leave facts and find more proper sources. It takes some time. After this, I would like to improve an article about a Pakistanian artist. It seems to me that there is a lot of "frozen" COI articles nobody solves, so maybe I could learn how to help. Bibliof (talk) 16:42, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Lockley, I edited and rewrited big part of the article, deleted puffery, added soucres, artworks in public space etc. I took care of wording as much as I could. Is it satisfactory for you or do you see any more inappropriate wording there? Your advice is important to me. I would like to improve another article and it seems to me that most part will have to be rewritten. Thank you very much. Bibliof (talk) 15:00, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Bibliof:. You've done a lot of good work on Lubo Kristek removing promotional language, so I've deleted that tag. I do hope you continue to work on resolving COI issues -- separating puffery from substance can be an art in itself. Happy editing & all best to you --Lockley (talk) 16:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Because you asked about the bluegreen hair I checked out your user page and here's some of what came from that: {{Frederick William MacMonnies}}, Category:Sculptures by Frederick William MacMonnies. That Liberty statue could use a page someday, a nice sculpture. Thanks for the user-page inspiration. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:53, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Randy Kryn:, that's quite an elegant gesture, thank you kindly. As to WP:BLUEGREENHAIR, I saw your comment, made a sort of puzzled Scooby-Doo noise to myself, did an internal search on the phrase and saw that you, and only you, had invoked this cryptic policy, like, 8 or 9 times in the AfD queue! What could this mean? (Of course it was the same entry, duplicated, but I didn't notice that.) It means I should relax enough to appreciate a gentle joke, maybe. All best to you & thanks for the MacMonnies present, which I am already eager to play with. --Lockley (talk) 05:06, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That is odd to see, I guess each comment on AfD gets duplicated in the Wikipedia coding on an endless cyber-loop somewhere (cyberwhere). On MacMonnies, I've run across his sculptures here from time to time but never concentrated my attention on his overall body of work, which turns out to be quite substantial and important to the era. I was glad that his Wikipedia collection included at least five items (the accepted minimum for a template) and a template could be made. Saw your bank pediment addition, it seems MacMonnies was on fire with artistic energy in the 1890s. I've thought of linking that fake WP hair thing to "Get Out of Jail free card" as a comment on the AfD. It's odd that some editors think that articles about Wikipedia people are navel-gazing, which I've never done and seems easiest in a mirror, given the notability of Wikipedia and its place in 21st century history. Maybe when it gets that Nobel Peace Prize they'll realize the importance of what they've been helping to create and maintain. I see this comment is getting long-winded, so thanks again for the MacMonnies focus. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:49, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's something about those celebrity sculptors of 1900 or so that remains interesting -- maybe just the stale whiff of old-school publicity and rose petals. Seems to me that MacMonnies, along with Daniel Chester French and Philip Martiny and a couple of others, all learned a lot at the feet of ASG: partly about sculpture, plus something about getting clients, also something about keeping their names in the paper, and something about taking credit for the work of a railroad-barn-full of apprentices. All best to you @Randy Kryn: --Lockley (talk) 23:50, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I came across that one looking to do some CAT:NN cleanup. I'm not convinced that there's a WP:NORG or WP:GNG pass here, as the coverage seems to be mainly government reports (affiliated with the agency helping run the prison) and some databases of prisons. As you've been active recently and created the article, I was wondering if you were aware of any coverage of this one that would make it notable before I AFD'd it. Hog Farm _Bacon 05:50, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Hog Farm:. There's so many prisons in Texas, ain't nobody gonna miss one. Thanks for asking. --Lockley (talk) 11:05, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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My voice was deeper when I was younger, and after staying up all night I could sound like Lurch saying the above.
Thanks for noting my adding the Bell H. Crump fountain image. But what I'd really like to find is a citation for this image of it.
Hope you're well.
Obsessively yours, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:58, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I feel stupid for having missed the Sarah Cresson Memorial Horse Trough at Broad St. & Windrim Ave. (especially after you asked me to look there). Windrim crosses the street grid at about a 30-degree angle, creating a triangular traffic island. THAT was what I was looking at as I turned onto Windrim, and I suspect the trough was originally located on the island. Now it is located about 50 ft north of the island, along the sidewalk and is often blocked by parked cars.

I'm hunting down one more fountain. I'll let you know how it goes. Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 23:18, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @BoringHistoryGuy:, how are you? Oh yeah, oh, yes, I'm still working on my Lurch on frog-voiced mornings, although whether D recognizes "you rang" or tactically ignores me, I cannot say. That's a particularly good teasing old photo on that "eraserhood" site -- I had a run at it, couldn't find any good clues -- and as to the 3rd Cresson fountain, the impressive thing is, you've kept at Drinking fountains in Philadelphia and I appreciate the 19th-century flavor of that page. In which the ladies of Philadelphia organize and do something for the horses they see suffering in the street. Ed if you're thinking of any good wikipedia initiatives, let me know, because the White House seems to no longer need my close supervision & I always learn something good from you. Best! --Lockley (talk) 19:29, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Added 2 more Annie L. Lowry horse troughs (and some great footnotes). Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 19:35, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey, Lockley, thank you for starting this list-article, and for developing it so well in its first version, too! Please don't be discouraged or bothered by this deletion nomination; I voted "Keep" there and I predict that will be closed with "Keep" decision although the process usually takes a week or more. Thanks, keep up your good work! --Doncram (talk) 20:08, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Oh, I see you are a long-time editor, so you will probably know how this works already. --Doncram (talk) 20:08, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Doncram: thank you sincerely for words of support and contributions. Yup, I've been here for a minute, and I've also worked the deletion queue enough to... know how that particular screwy process works. all best & good health to you --Lockley (talk) 20:21, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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