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Thanks for the heads up. I suppose it is now becoming a bit long and janky thanks to all the competition notifications I get.--Discott (talk) 09:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The third round of the 2022 WikiCup has now come to an end. Each of the sixteen contestants who made it into the fourth round had at least 180 points, which is a lower figure than last year when 294 points were needed to progress to round 4. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

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Hi Discott, Hope you been well spamming everyone with Wikimania 2022 invites. I just want to enquire about Wikimedia ZA Membership. I recently filled out the Google form and want to know how I can make a crypto currency donation and What I could do to help. TapticInfo (talk) 07:11, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TapticInfo, thank you for the enquirey and I see that you have made an application to join the chapter which is great! Shupai should have gotten back to you confirming your membership by now. If not then please let me know. The application process is straight forward in that it simply involves filing out a short form and making an annual donation of any amount to the chapter. The donation acts as the membership due. You are more than welcome to make the donation in crypto. The best way to help is just to get involved in chapter activities by volunteering to help out with events, attending meetups (it has been great seeing you in them), and/or offering to organise your own Wiki related events. --Discott (talk) 10:05, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Discott:, Thanks for getting back to me. I haven’t received a Email from Shupai yet. TapticInfo (talk) 19:04, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Again, Shupai Has reached out on my talk page, I think there was an error with me filling out the Google form, but I’m still waiting for an email and where to donate. TapticInfo (talk) 17:06, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello @Discott. Your recent edits seem to be quite one-sided because the media reports you cite have some glaring inaccuracies. Since Wikipedia has a neutral point of view policy, here is the statement from UCT rebutting several of the media claims. It is also interesting that her recent African Education Medal was not mentioned at all, but only inaccurate information which may paint her in an unfavorable light. Ear-phone (talk) 15:14, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bobbyshabangu Ear-phone (talk) 15:14, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ear-phone, thank you for pointing out the rebuttal and the need to add it to the relevant page. I did try to be neutral by adding statements the VC's self proclaimed supporters made but I had not seen the the UCT rebuttal by the time I made those additions. I also feel that adding citations from additional sources would be good for the article and NPOV because currently the section is too heavily reliant on the Daily Maverick. Please do add the new citations you have mentioned. I can also do it but I feel it would be better for NPOV if someone else also contributed to this section. As for inaccuracies within the media sources (mostly Daily Maverick I assume), beyond the ones I read about (and disputed/refuted by the Daily Maverick) in this article (which I read this morning) I am not aware of any in these sources. That is why I think it needs more people than just me editing that article and section as there will be more people picking up on these sorts of issues. --Discott (talk) 16:26, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Discott. Thank you for the links. I had already added the Africa Medal Award. My primary question is: Why do you find (contested) prejudicial content on the UCT Vice-Chancellor despite the fact that there is bona fide (non-contested) favorable content as well? Why do you expect someone else to present a neutral point of view, while you edit in a particular way?

Wikipedia has a policy regarding Biographies of living persons, which states that, "Contentious material about living persons...must be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion". The section on controversy is arguably the longest, also detailing events from her first term, yet this is a UCT Vice-Chancellor who was re-appointed to a second term resoundingly via an extensive consultative process.

@Bobbyshabangu

Ear-phone (talk) 17:15, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ear-phone, It seems you misunderstood me. I apologize if I might have been unclear in my previous reply. I do not (as you said) "expect someone else to present a neutral point of view." I always try to maintain NPOV in my edits as I thought I made clear in my previous reply. I am simply recognising that the pursuit of NPOV requires a collective effort. That things that might seem NPOV to some people might not seem NPOV to others. In reply to your point on the biographies section I would like to point out that the full section of that policy states "contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced should be removed immediately and without discussion." The section in question clearly was not "unsourced" and I do not believe that that section was poorly sourced, indeed it cites multiple sources. As such it wild be improper to remove it without first discussing the issue on the talk page. I don't see how the possibility that the Controversy section of the subject's page is the longest is relevant here. I saw that there was an issue of public interest being talked about in the public in multiple reliable sources (or sources usually regarded as reliable) and I decided to make a contribution that I thought would improve the relevant article based upon that source. I did so in good faith and in the belief that it was notable and in the public interest. I make these sorts of edits all the time as do thousands of other Wikipedia editors on a regular basis. I still believe these references are good sources, both in general and on the subject at hand here. If you disagree with that then we will need to discuss, on the article talk page, why you believe the sources I used are bad or otherwise untrustworthy.--Discott (talk) 22:09, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On another issue, you seem to be suggesting that I am cherry picking my references. If so that is an accusation I would strongly reject. At the time I made those edits I did try to find references that refuted or presented an alternative point of view. I was unsuccessful at the time. I did not check for such sources daily to make any updates as I was not following the story on a daily basis but rather hap haphazardly, that is reasonable and I would venture to say 'normal' Wiki behaviour. Sometimes I am slow to add content as I might a) wait a while to see how the issue might progress so I can get a better understanding of it or b) might hope that someone else might pickup where I left off or c) get distracted by life. My assumption was that this is Wikipedia, a wiki where other people can also add, update, change and/or correct items where needs be. That be as it may, I do wish to thank you for bringing UCT's retort to my attention and, as such, have decided to update the article with it and the Daily Maverick's responce to it. If you feel that I have been incomplete in anyway or made any errors then please feel free to also contribute to the article. Discott (talk) 22:53, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Discott: Why would one 'edit' haphazardly (to use your word) a topic that is contentious and clearly evolving when according to Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, "Editors must take particular care when adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page. Such material requires a high degree of sensitivity, ...". I find it interesting that her winning a very notable education award around the same time was information not found and added. This award is in the public interest, which I added subsequently. Like you, I came to this article because of the recent media attention, but it was quite easy to find reliable information refuting the sources that cite anonymous persons and read more like sensational journalism. If you "always try to maintain NPOV in my edits" (to use your words), why would it be a haphazard process and why is there disproportionate focus on contentious material potentially prejudicial with favorable non-contentious material also in the public interest not included? Ear-phone (talk) 23:41, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ear-phone Again I feel as though you have misinterpreted me. I did NOT say I was editing "hapazardly", I did say that I was following the story "haphazardly." Like most people do when following any news item. I did not obsessively follow the story as it unfolded in the media but rather when I had time to check or happened to come across articles once I had already added the section. It seems as though most of the sources presenting a view favorable to the subject had come out after I had written the bulk of that section. I have explained that I did try to find sources that presented an alternative point of view to the DM and News24 but was unsuccessful at the time. If you feel you have found such sources then please feel free to add them. This is a Wiki after all, it is collective project.

As for the award, I was unaware of the award until you mentioned it to me. Thank you for adding it, I encourage you to continue to edit and improve the article. The focus on the controversy in my most recent editing of the article was because that was the subject I was trying to understand and so that was what I was researching.

At this point I would like to point out that I feel as though you are trying to catch me out in a gotcha moment. This makes me feel as though you are not engaging with me on this issue in good faith. I hope that I am wrong here but even if I am not I would still encourage adopting the assumption of good faith. Discott (talk) 06:07, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments, @Discott:. You keep asking me to add to this article as if I haven't already done so voluntarily. By the way, this ongoing conversation is also helpful because it has resulted in modifications to the articles. It appears that you view me as your lackey who requires encouragement to contribute to this particular topic.

We occasionally end up editing the same article, possibly because we both favor South African-related articles. I thought back to a time when you posted information to a Wikipedia page (see our 2020 discussion - Allegations section) that could be taken negatively about the subject, despite Wikipedia policy saying that if a denial has been made, it should also be included. Even if I don't know much about these developing stories, it still surprises me that when I Google a subject for a biography, I can readily find non-controversial information of public interest that is not included and would offer NPOV, frequently near the top of search results. You, however, assert that you are unaware of this information's existence.

I appreciate your discourse and conversation. I'll continue on to other topics. Ear-phone (talk) 12:38, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ear-phone: I hope you can forgive me for feeling a bit frustrated with this conversation as I feel as though you are consistently interpreting all of my attempts at genuine encouragement and inclusion in a constantly negative light. I in no way view you, or anyone else, as my "lackey." I am simply trying to encourage people to edit Wikipedia if they feel there is anything missing, areas of improvement that are needed, NPOV that could be improved, or if any errors have been made; and that they are welcome to make changes as some editors might feel cautious editing someone else's work.

You complained that the section I added was problematic which is fine, even if I sometimes disagree with you or might fail to see what about my writing is problematic given the time frame within which it was written in. This is where this being a Wiki comes in as I, as should all Wikipedia editors, rely on other editors to help 'complete' an article. This completion can be in the form of more information, keeping it up-to-date, editing better pros, better article structure or something else. However it is hard for me to take these criticisms seriously if you are not prepared to try and correct, or at least make suggestions on how to correct an issue. Something constructive. Instead I feel as though I am being treated with hostility and vague insinuations of bias.

I also feel a bit frustrated because I don't even know what edits you hope to see being made to the article in question. Do you want the addition of rebuttals, that is great and I am happy to add them (I also agree that it is very important to add them) but why do I have to be the one to always add it and why the unrealistic expectation that I need to be able to know about them as soon as they are public? Do you want the whole section to be deleted? That would be problematic. Do you want me to stop adding controversy sections to articles? That would also be problematic and, I feel, not in the public interest. Do you want me to edit an article as a whole when I choose to edit it at one particular time? If so then surely it is up to what I, as an unpaid volunteer editor, feel like editing in the moment; ie, it is an editor's personal choice to edit what and when they feel like? Also, for many articles, that is often not plausible given the size and complexity of some articles. Discott (talk) 14:17, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Discott: I'm sorry you feel that way. We obviously don't share the same core understanding of what NPOV is, thus I want to move on. I want to start editing other articles. You claim, "if you are not prepared to try and correct, or at least make suggestions on how to correct an issue". As previously noted, I made voluntary edits to the article to try to improve NPOV and add more details. Ironically, you added some of this information, from the links I found, when you updated the article. I concur that "it is an editor's personal choice to edit what and when they feel like", but within the existing frameworks and policy. I'm hoping you'll let me make the very personal decisions you espouse. The very best wishes to you. Ear-phone (talk) 14:55, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ear-phone: all edits on Wikipedia should be voluntary, I would be very worried if anyone wasn't making edits voluntarily with the freedom to edit on what ever subject they wish (so long as there is no conflict of interests) and to do so when ever they wish. We are all unpaid volunteers after all; excluding the very small minority of paid editors (a rightly frowned upon activity). I am not so sure we do "obviously don't share the same core understanding of what NPOV is." I am interested in knowing how you feel it might be different but I am worried if we have a different "core understanding" of what it is. I suspect we might rather have a different philosophy of how NPOV is achieved and possibly different expectations of our fellow editors.

My philosophy is that achieving NPOV is like a quest for the holy grail in that we must always strive for it even if it is impossible to achieve at times. A quest that requires many, and ideally a diverse, group of people; in addition to time, and constant work and all governed by the Wikipedia NPOV guidelines. That 'what is NPOV' on a different subjects tend to evolve over time even though its path is dictated up the principles of Wikipedia's NPOV rules. I think it would be presumptive of me to assume what your view is but from what I can tell it seems to be a bit different from the one I just outlined.

Having said that I also wish you all the very best and would like to thank you for all the excellent edits you have made; both on South Africa related articles and on medical related articles. Given your interest in medical topics I would like to respectfully suggest that you consider joining Wiki Project Medicine (if you are not already a member). They are a truly excellent thematic group on Wikipedia that are always doing a wide range of interesting projects. They are by far the biggest and best organised thematic group that I am aware of on Wikipedia. Discott (talk) 15:54, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments @Discott:. You keep giving me these unsolicited encouragements/suggestions about what I should consider/do, as if I've never considered these things or participated in such activities/projects before/currently. I find this patronizing. That is why I said, I am not your lackey. That is another reason I wish to move on from this discussion. I am no longer going to reply. BW. Ear-phone (talk) 19:39, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ear-phone, I apologise for trying to be helpful. I promise not to do so with you again. Discott (talk) 07:49, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The 2022 WikiCup has drawn to a close with the final round going down to the wire. The 2022 champion is

• Lee Vilenski (1752 points), who won in 2020 and was runner up in both 2019 and last year. In the final round he achieved 3 FAs and 15 GAs, mostly on cue sports. He was closely followed by
• Bloom6132 (1732), who specialised in "In the news" items and DYKs, and who has reached the final round of the Cup for the past three years. Next was
• BennyOnTheLoose (1238), another cue sports enthusiast, also interested in songs, followed by
• Muboshgu (1082), an "In the news" contributor, a seasoned contestant who first took part in the Cup ten years ago. Other finalists were
• Sammi Brie (930), who scored with a featured article, good articles and DYKs on TV and radio stations,
• Kavyansh.Singh (370), who created various articles on famous Americans, including an FA on Louis H. Bean, famed for his prediction of election outcomes. Next was
• PCN02WPS (292), who scored with good articles and DYKs on sporting and other topics and
• Z1720 (25) who had DYKs on various topics including historic Canadians.

During the WikiCup, contestants achieved 37 featured articles, 349 good articles, 360 featured article reviews, 683 good article reviews and 480 In the news items, so Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors. Well done everyone! All those who reached the final round will receive awards and the following special awards will be made, based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or the overall leader in this field.

• Lee Vilenski wins the featured article prize, for a total of 6 FAs during the course of the competition and 3 in the final round.
• Kavyansh.Singh wins the featured list prize, for 3 FLs in round 2.
• Adam Cuerden wins the featured picture prize, for 39 FPs during the competition.
• Z1720 wins the featured article reviewer prize, for 35 FARs in round 4.
• Epicgenius wins the good article prize, for 32 GAs in round 1.
• SounderBruce wins the featured topic prize, for 4 FT articles in round 1.
• Lee Vilenski wins the good topic prize, for 34 GT articles in round 5.
• Sammi Brie wins the good article reviewer prize, for 71 GARs overall.
• Sammi Brie wins the Did you know prize, for 30 DYKs in round 3 and 106 overall.
• Bloom6132 wins the In the news prize, for 106 ITNs in round 5 and 289 overall.

Next year's competition will begin on 1 January and possible changes to the rules and scoring are being discussed on the discussion page. You are invited to sign up to take part in the contest; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to have a good turnout for the 2023 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners and finalists, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:28, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2023 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:16, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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So ends the first round of the 2023 WikiCup. Everyone with a positive score moved on to Round 2, with 54 contestants qualifying. The top scorers in Round 1 were:

• Unlimitedlead with 1205 points, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with two featured articles on historical figures and several featured article candidate reviews.
• Epicgenius was in second place with 789 points; a seasoned WikiCup competitor he specialises in buildings and locations in New York.
• FrB.TG was in third place with 625 points, garnered from a featured article on a filmmaker which qualified for an impressive number of bonus points.
• TheJoebro64, another WikiCup newcomer, came next with 600 points gained from two featured articles on video games.
• Iazyges was in fifth place with 532 points, from two featured articles on classical history.

The top sixteen contestants at the end of Round 1 had all scored over 300 points; these included LunaEatsTuna, Thebiguglyalien, Sammi Brie, Trainsandotherthings, Lee Vilenski, Juxlos, Unexpectedlydian, SounderBruce, Kosack, BennyOnTheLoose and PCN02WPS. It was a high-scoring start to the competition.

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start again from scratch. The first round finished on February 26. Remember that any content promoted after that date but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Some contestants made claims before the new submissions pages were set up, and they will need to resubmit them. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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The second round of the 2023 WikiCup has now finished. Contestants needed to have scored 60 points to advance into round 3. Our top five scorers in round 2 all included a featured article among their submissions and each scored over 500 points. They were:

• Iazyges (1040) with three FAs on Byzantine emperors, and lots of bonus points.
• Unlimitedlead (847), with three FAs on ancient history, one GA and nine reviews.
• Epicgenius (636), a WikiCup veteran, with one FA on the New Amsterdam Theatre, four GAs and eleven DYKs
• BennyOnTheLoose (553), a seasoned competitor, with one FA on snooker, six GAs and seven reviews.
• FrB.TG (525), with one FA, a Lady Gaga song and a mass of bonus points.

Other notable performances were put in by Sammi Brie, Thebiguglyalien, MyCatIsAChonk, PCN02WPS, and AirshipJungleman29.

So far contestants have achieved thirteen featured articles between them, one being a joint effort, and forty-nine good articles. The judges are pleased with the thorough reviews that are being performed, and have hardly had to reject any. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

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Salut Discott . I hope you're doing well. They call me Mermoze Adodo in real life. I am a founding member of Wikimédiens du Bénin User Group. I came across the Commons:Wiki Loves Plants contest by chance at the beginning of January 2023. I am contacting you to see how we could organize it in Benin in 2024 or others next editions because we have been working with some partners in the field of promoting the environment and biodiversity within the framework of Wiki Loves Earth contest since 2019. We would like to know the practical and technical arrangements to be made, do we need to ask for a grant etc. Kindly Regards Adoscam (talk) 08:57, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Adoscam, sorry for the slow reply. This is great news and I would be delighted for WM Benin to host a Wiki Loves Plants. Send me a direct message and we can talk more about the details of a Benin Wiki Loves Plants. I do want to add though that we are trying to host Wiki Loves Plants every second year so the next one is planned for 2025. There are two reasons why we are doing this, the first is that it is a lot of work and to reduce participation fatigue, the second is that we dont want it to overlap with Wiki Loves Science which takes place every second year (so on 2022, 2024, 2026, and so on). Instead Wikimedia South Africa tries to focus on doing a Wiki Loves Science event on those years and then in the years when it is not happening we do Wiki Loves Plants. I am also more than happy to help you out in doing a Wiki Loves Science event in 2024.- Discott (talk) 12:19, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome

I have also been interested in Wiki Loves Science contest for years but I did not know it was possible and I searched for information in vain. Thank you for your return. I just sent you a private message hoping for your return. Best Adoscam (talk) 18:01, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The third round of the 2023 WikiCup has come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 175 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

• Thebiguglyalien, with 919 points from a featured article on Frances Cleveland as well as five good articles and many reviews,
• Unlimitedlead, with 862 points from a high-scoring featured articles on Henry II of England and numerous reviews,
• Iazyges, with 560 points from a high-scoring featured article on Tiberius III.

Contestants achieved 11 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 47 good articles, 72 featured or good article reviews, over 100 DYKs and 40 ITN appearances. As always, any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Wikipedia policies, regardless of the review process.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:18, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The fourth round of the competition has finished, with anyone scoring less than 673 points being eliminated. It was a high scoring round with all but one of the contestants who progressed to the final having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were

• Epicgenius, with 2173 points topping the scores, gained mainly from a featured article, 38 good articles and 9 DYKs. He was followed by
• Sammi Brie, with 1575 points, gained mainly from a featured article, 28 good articles and 50 good article reviews. Close behind was
• Thebiguglyalien, with 1535 points mainly gained from a featured article, 15 good articles, 26 good article reviews and lots of bonus points.

Between them during round 4, contestants achieved 12 featured articles, 3 featured lists, 3 featured pictures, 126 good articles, 46 DYK entries, 14 ITN entries, 67 featured article candidate reviews and 147 good article reviews. Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them and within 24 hours of the end of the final. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.

I will be standing down as a judge after the end of the contest. I think the Cup encourages productive editors to improve their contributions to Wikipedia and I hope that someone else will step up to take over the running of the Cup. Sturmvogel 66 (talk), and Cwmhiraeth (talk)

The WikiCup is a marathon rather than a sprint and all those reaching the final round have been involved in the competition for the last ten months, improving Wikipedia vastly during the process. After all this hard work, BeanieFan11 has emerged as the 2023 winner and the WikiCup Champion. The finalists this year were:-

• BeanieFan11 with 2582 points
• Thebiguglyalien with 1615 points
• Epicgenius with 1518 points
• MyCatIsAChonk with 1012 points
• BennyOnTheLoose with 974 points
• AirshipJungleman29 with 673 points
• Sammi Brie with 520 points
• Unlimitedlead with 5 points

Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether they made it to the final round or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the competition, some of whom did very well. Wikipedia has benefitted greatly from the quality creations, expansions and improvements made, and the numerous reviews performed. All those who reached the final round will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. Awards will be handed out in the next few days.

• Unlimitedlead wins the featured article prize, for 7 FAs in total including 3 in round 2.
• MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured list prize, for 5 FLs in total.
• Lee Vilenski wins the featured topic prize, for a 6-article featured topic in round 4.
• MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured picture prize, for 6 FPs in total.
• BeanieFan11 wins the good article prize, for 75 GAs in total, including 61 in the final round.
• Epicgenius wins the good topic prize, for a 41-article good topic in the final round.
• LunaEatsTuna wins the GA reviewer prize, for 70 GA reviews in round 1.
• MyCatIsAChonk wins the FA reviewer prize, for 66 FA reviews in the final round.
• Epicgenius wins the DYK prize, for 49 did you know articles in total.
• Muboshgu wins the ITN prize, for 46 in the news articles in total.

The WikiCup has run every year since 2007. With the 2023 contest now concluded, I will be standing down as a judge due to real life commitments, so I hope that another editor will take over running the competition. Please get in touch if you are interested. Next year's competition will hopefully begin on 1 January 2024. You are invited to sign up to participate in the contest; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors. It only remains to congratulate our worthy winners once again and thank all participants for their involvement! (If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.) Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:51, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Africa looks pretty quiet at the moment. Where's the best place for new editors like User talk:Mr Khanyile to connect with other African editors these days? WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:28, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2024 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close on 31 January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), and Frostly (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.

Our current leader is newcomer Generalissima (submissions), who has one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher) and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:

• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), with one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, and two DYKs;
• Vami_IV (submissions), with one FA on Doom (2016 video game), one GA on Boundary Fire (2017), and 11 reviews;
• MaranoFan (submissions), with one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and two DYKs;
• Skyshifter (submissions), with one FA on OneShot and one DYK;
• Sammi Brie (submissions), with five GAs and five DYKs on television and radio stations;
• voorts (submissions) and Elli (submissions), both with one FA and one DYK each.

As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that you can really come up with a valid figure for these. Mainly because the capabilities are so much different with electronics becoming ever greater percentages of the ships' costs. The best you might be probably able to do is calculate the warship's cost as a percentage of the navy's shipbuilding budget, IMO.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:22, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sturmvogel 66, yes it is tricky. I have been looking into this and I suspect that the most accurate measure is relative output/economic share. This measure is used for government projects like infrastructure and measures the cost of the project on the economy at the time. I was hoping that the GDP-UK function on the template I was using would display this amount but it only seems to do retail level equivalent worth which is only really good for biography articles. I checked the economic share equivalent amount for £377,292 in 1861 and it comes up to be £1,154,000,000 in 2023. This £1,154,000,000 figure seems more in line with government military projects for a high-tech capital ship in today's money and so is more relevant to this ship as an equivalent worth. --Discott (talk) 10:14, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That does seem a reasonable "ballpark" figure.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 10:22, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.

The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:

• Generalissima (submissions), who has 916 points mostly from one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher), 15 GAs, and 16 DYKs on a variety of topics including New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures, in addition to seven reviews
• Vami_IV (submissions), who has 790 points from two FAs on Felix M. Warburg House and Doom (2016 video game), two GAs, one DYK, and 11 reviews
• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who has 580 points from one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, two DYKs, and five reviews
• Sammi Brie (submissions), who has 420 points mostly from nine GAs and seven DYKs on television and radio stations
• MaranoFan (submissions), who has 351 points from one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and three DYKs
• Skyshifter (submissions), who has 345 points from one FA on OneShot, one DYK and two reviews

In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to Vami_IV (submissions), who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five A-class articles, eight other good articles, and two Four Awards. Vami also wrote an essay on completionism, a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his to-do list.

Remember that any content promoted after 27 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We are approaching the end of the 2024 WikiCup's second round, with a little over two weeks remaining. Currently, contestants must score at least 105 points to progress to the third round.

Our current top scorers are as follows:

• Sammi Brie (submissions) with 642 points, mostly from 11 GAs about radio and television;
• voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two FAs (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three GAs;
• Generalissima (submissions) with 523 points, mostly from 11 GAs about coinage and history;
• SounderBruce (submissions) with 497 points, mostly from a FA about the 2020 season of the soccer club Seattle Sounders FC and two GAs;
• Tamzin (submissions) with 410 points, mostly from a FA about the drink Capri-Sun and three GAs;
• Kusma (submissions) with 330 points, mostly from a FA about the English botanist Anna Blackburne and a GA.

Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs. As a reminder, competitors are strictly prohibited from gaming Wikipedia policies or processes to receive more points.

If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please read Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014.

The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points:

• Sammi Brie (submissions) with 707 points, mostly from 45 good article nomination reviews and 12 good articless about radio and television;
• Generalissima (submissions) with 600 points, mostly from 12 good articles and 12 did you know nominations about coinage and history;
• SounderBruce (submissions) with 552 points, mostly from a featured article about the 2020 Seattle Sounders FC season, three featured lists, and two good articles;
• BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 548 points, mostly from a featured article about the snooker player John Pulman, two featured lists, and one good article;
• voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two featured articles (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three good articles.

The full scores for Round 2 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 in the news credits and at least 200 did you know credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see this page. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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		Your hook reached 16,949 views (706.2 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of May 2024 – nice work!

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The third round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 June. As with Round 2, this round was competitive: each of the 16 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 256 points.

The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3:

• Generalissima (submissions) with 1,059 points, mostly from 1 featured article on DeLancey W. Gill, 11 good articles, 18 did you know nominations, and dozens of reviews;
• Skyshifter (submissions) with 673 points, mostly from 2 featured articles on Worlds (Porter Robinson album) and I'm God, 5 good articles, and 2 did you know nominations;
• Sammi Brie (submissions) with 557 points, mostly from 1 featured article on KNXV-TV, 5 good articles, and 8 did you know nominations; and
• AryKun (submissions) with 415 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Great cuckoo-dove, with a high number of bonus points from that article.

The full scores for round 3 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 in the news credits, and at least 285 did you know credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed during Round 4, which starts on 1 July at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see this page. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:30, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I see you've contributed a lot to Zulu Kingdom, would you be interested in a taskforce on oral tradition? Kowal2701 (talk) 16:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kowal2701, thanks for the offer but it is not really my sort of thing. However I do know a few people who might be interested. Pgallert has been a very involved in this subject in the past and is well worth contacting about it. There are a few people through the African Wikipedians network who are also interested but I can't recall who. Bobbyshabangu might know a few of them. I will let you know if I can think of anyone else. All the best of luck.--Discott (talk) 16:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I did contact Pgallert but he was quite wary, he is the person I’d most like to get onside. His WP:Oral citations experiment would revolutionise African history in this encyclopedia and tap into knowledge and expertise that is currently ignored Kowal2701 (talk) 17:41, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The fourth round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 29 August. Each of the 8 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 472 points, and the following contestants scored more than 700 points:

• Generalissima (submissions) with 1,150 points, mostly from 3 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 7 good articles, and 13 did you know nominations;
• Arconning (submissions) with 791 points, mostly from 2 featured lists, 8 good articles, 4 did you know nominations, and plenty of reviews;
• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions) with 718 points, mostly from a high-multiplier featured article on Genghis Khan and 2 good articles; and
• BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 714 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Susanna Hoffs, 2 featured lists, and 3 good articles.

Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated. Contestants put in extraordinary amounts of effort during this round, and their scores can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 36 featured articles, 55 featured lists, 15 good articles, 93 in the news credits, and at least 333 did you know credits. They have conducted 357 featured content reviews, as well as 553 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 30 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Any content promoted after 29 August but before the start of Round 5 can be claimed during Round 5, which starts on 1 September at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. If two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Remember to claim your points within 14 days of earning them, and importantly, before the deadline on 31 October.

If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see this page. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:12, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The 2024 WikiCup has come to an end, with the final round being a very tight race. Our new champion is AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who scored 2,283 points mainly through 3 high-multiplier FAs and 3 GAs on military history topics. By a 1% margin, Airship beat out last year's champion, BeanieFan11 (submissions), who scored second with 2,264 points, mainly from an impressive 58 GAs about athletes. In third place, Generalissima (submissions) scored 1,528 points, primarily from two FAs on U.S. Librarians of Congress and 20 GAs about various historical topics. Our other finalists are: Sammi Brie (submissions) with 879 points, Hey man im josh (submissions) with 533 points, BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 432 points, Arconning (submissions) with 244 points, and AryKun (submissions) with 15 points. Congratulations to our finalists and all who participated!

The final round was very productive, and contestants had 7 FAs, 9 FLs, 94 GAs, 73 FAC reviews, and 79 GAN reviews and peer reviews. Altogether, Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors all through the contest. Well done everyone!

All those who reached the final will receive awards and the following special awards will be made, based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or in the event of a tie, to the overall leader in this field.

• Generalissima (submissions) wins the featured article prize for 3 FAs in round 4, and 7 FAs overall.
• Hey man im josh (submissions) wins the featured list prize for 23 FLs overall.
• MaranoFan (submissions) wins the featured topic prize for 9 articles in featured topics in round 1.
• Hey man im josh (submissions) wins the featured content reviewer prize for 110 FA/FL reviews overall.
• BeanieFan11 (submissions) wins the good article prize for 58 GAs in round 5, and 70 GAs overall.
• Fritzmann (submissions) wins the good topic prize for 6 articles in good topics in round 2.
• Sammi Brie (submissions) wins the good article reviewer prize for 45 GA reviews in round 2, and 78 GA reviews overall.
• BeanieFan11 (submissions) wins the DYK prize, for 131 Did you know articles overall.
• Muboshgu (submissions) wins the ITN prize, for 15 In the news articles in round 1, and 36 overall.

Next year's competition will begin on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to see you all in the 2025 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement!

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Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2025 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor, we hope the WikiCup will give you a chance to improve your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page.

For the 2025 WikiCup, we've implemented several changes to the scoring system. The highest-ranking contestants will now receive tournament points at the end of each round, and final rankings are decided by the number of tournament points each contestant has. If you're busy and can't sign up in January, don't worry: Signups are now open throughout the year. To make things fairer for latecomers, the lowest-scoring contestants will no longer be eliminated at the end of each round.

The first round will end on 26 February. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), Frostly (talk · contribs · email), Guerillero (talk · contribs · email) and Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:13, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Morning,

I found you on the Edinburgh meetup thread unfortunately I dont think I would be able to attend as I will be back to work.

In any case I created the account when I saw a certain page that was quite poor and though - this chap was a martial of France he deserves something a little better. So slowly I edited it, but one area I knew very little about was his time in Algeria. Anyway this winter I got myself a book on Algeria party for personal interest, partly so I could tidy up that page.

Anyway some edits latter I'm on Emir Abdelkader - Wikipedia and I add some information - he paid a money sum to a French officer in exchange for some secret provisions.

And frankly I feel harassed by another user there, I have explained the rationale for the addition they will not justify the removal other than it can go elsewhere.

I feel its a critical event in this persons life, because out of that payment he obtains things that strengthened the state he was leading. The very next part of the article is indeed about how in the next couple of years this guy stabilises his state.

I cannot think of any other person whom if they engaged in a similar quid pro quo it would not appear relevant to put in someones biography.

Could you if you have time have a look in at this as I have said here, I feel harassed and alone as new user I dont know

Best regards,

LeChat LeChatiliers Pupper (talk) 06:24, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good Day Fellow Wikimedian

I write to invite you to a Wikimedia ZA birthday celebration which will take place on 22 February 2025 at the Goethe Institut in Parktown, Johannesburg and Code Bridge in Cape Town as well as online if you will not be able to join in person.

Wikimedia South Africa is a chapter founded on 25 February 2012 after being approved as a chapter by the Wikimedia Foundation on 26 March 2011. Our chapter seeks to promote local awareness of the projects and their proper academic use, encourage translation efforts into local languages and support the creation of local free knowledge and media

We are always looking to support South Africans or Africans in the promotion of free knowledge and to promote the enhancement of local knowledge in local languages on wikipedia and online for the benefit of all.

As a chapter engagement is an important strategic initiative and we would encourage you to check out the chapter on the links below. Links:

Meta Page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_South_Africa

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/1FtVdvzjnr/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Twitter: @Wikimedia_ZA

Instagram: @wikimedia_za

Website: https://www.wmza.org/

Each month the Chapter hosts In-Person Meetups in Cape Town and Johannesburg where fellow Wikimedians and newcomers meet to enjoy refreshments and snacks and to discuss Wikipedia, Wikimedia South Africa initiatives and to isolate community needs.

In February our next Chapter Meetups will occur in person in Johannesburg at the Goethe Institut:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_Meet-up_South_Africa/_Johannesburg_14

and in Cape Town at the Codebridge offices:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_Meet-up_South_Africa/_Cape_Town_45

The Meetup will occur on Saturday the 22nd February 2025 between 10:30am and 12:30pm.

This meetup will be special as we will be celebrating the 13th Anniversary of Wikimedia South Africa and the 24th Anniversary of Wikipedia. There will be refreshments and entertainment.

We will be reflecting on our past year as well as our plans for the Chapter in 2025 and would love for you to participate. If you are able to attend in person please RSVP so we can appropriately plan by completing the form by 12th February 2025:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSefPqXHFf1DJIWM8yqX7CHNMOVHQz9Io_dI6RtAqPGcPynAFA/viewform

Can’t join in person no problem online participation will be available and an option is available in the form above as well.

Best Regards,

Wikimedia South Africa Herschal Jackson (WMZA) (talk) 10:36, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The first round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 26 February. As a reminder, we are no longer disqualifying the lowest-scoring contestants; everyone who competed in round 1 will advance to round 2 unless they have withdrawn or been banned from Wikipedia. Instead, the contestants with the highest round-point totals now receive tournament points at the end of each round. Unlike the round points in the main WikiCup table, which are reset at the end of each round, tournament points are carried over between rounds and can only be earned if a competitor is among the top 16 round-point scorers. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far.

Round 1 was very competitive compared with previous years; two contestants scored more than 1,000 round points, and the top 16 contestants all scored more than 500 round points. The following competitors scored more than 800 round points:

• Gog the Mild (submissions) with 1,168 round points, mainly from 4 featured articles and 4 good articles on old military history, in addition to an assortment of GA and FA reviews.
• Generalissima (submissions) with 1,095 round points, mainly from 2 FAs, 2 featured lists, 8 GAs, and 16 Did You Know articles mainly on historical topics.
• BeanieFan11 (submissions), with 866 round points from 20 GAs, 23 DYKs, and 2 In the News articles primarily about athletes.
• Sammi Brie (submissions), with 846 round points from 16 GAs about radio and TV stations, 45 GA reviews, and 3 DYKs.
• Hey man im josh (submissions), with 816 round points from 5 FLs about sports and Olympic topics, 46 FL reviews, 3 ITN articles, and a large number of bonus points.
• MaranoFan (submissions), with 815 round points primarily from 3 FAs and 1 GA about music, in addition to 9 article reviews.

The full scores for round 1 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 18 featured articles, 26 featured lists, 1 featured-topic article, 197 good articles, 38 good-topic articles and more than 100 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 23 In the News articles, and they have conducted nearly 550 reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after 26 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2, which begins on 1 March. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:12, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Greenmarketsquare has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. ~ Rusty ^meow ~ 23:43, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Douglas

I'm going to be running an Aberdeen Wiki Meetup from 28 April. I've 'borrowed' heavily from your page to create this one

I've added it to the calendar - at least partly.While it shows in the full calendar when clicking through to April 28th, it doesn't show as an upcoming meetup on the embedded calendar list.

When editing the calendar entry, clicking the location dropdown doesn't work - I get a blank - and a (?) next to it says:

>> If your city is not in the list, it must be added to the list Events calendar/parameters.json

I took this to be https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Events_calendar/parameters.json but then I noted that Edinburgh doesn't seem to be there either.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Ian

Watty62 (talk) 19:17, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your meetup page looks great. To be honest I lifted 90% of the Edinburgh meetup pages from the older versions that were around before 2023 so I would be a terrible hypocrite if I had any issues with others borrowing from my page. Really I am just happy it could be of use to others. :-)

As for getting the meetups on the event lists. I just add the events individually and manually to the Wikipedia/Wikimedia meetup list pages using the old Wiki markup. That seems to be the most direct and least complicated way to do it. Hope that helps. Discott (talk) 21:29, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - It does, thanks!

Cheers

Ian Watty62 (talk) 11:20, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I see you're the creator of File:Rock painting of men with sheilds.jpg, I want to use it on Bantu expansion but I’m struggling to verify it. Do you know of any analyses done on it? Given how much focus there has been in the literature on initial Bantu-hunter gatherer relations, I’d be surprised if this wasn’t mentioned somewhere. A date would be really useful as well, thanks Kowal2701 (talk) 22:12, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To be specific, I’m struggling to verify whether scholars consider the figure to be Bantu dated at the time of the expansion. Kowal2701 (talk) 22:14, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for following up on this. I just copied the display text that the Iziko Museum in Cape Town, the national museum of South Africa, used to describe the rock art. I did take a picture of the display text which I can upload but sadly it does not cite any sources. I think the best option would be to followup with the anthropologists at the museum. Discott (talk) 10:19, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, okay I’ll drop them an email. Kowal2701 (talk) 10:32, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The second round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 April at 23:59 UTC. To reiterate what we said in the previous newsletter, we are no longer disqualifying contestants based on how many points (now known as round points) they received. Instead, the contestants with the highest round-point totals now receive tournament points at the end of each round. These tournament points are carried over between rounds, and can only be earned if a competitor is among the top 16 round-point scorers at the end of each round. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far. Everyone who competed in round 2 will advance to round 3 unless they have withdrawn or been banned.

Round 2 was quite competitive. Four contestants scored more than 1,000 round points, and eight scored more than 500 points (including one who has withdrawn). The following competitors scored at least 800 points:

• BeanieFan11 (submissions) with 1,233 round points from 24 good articles, 28 Did you know articles, and one In the news nomination, mainly about athletes and politicians
• Thebiguglyalien (submissions) with 1,127 round points, almost entirely from two high-multiplier featured articles on Black Widow (Natasha Romanova) and Grace Coolidge, in addition to two GAs and two reviews
• History6042 (submissions) with 1,088 round points from four featured lists about Michelin-starred restaurants, nine good articles and a good topic mostly on Olympic-related subjects, seven ITN articles, and dozens of reviews
• Gog the Mild (submissions) with 1,085 round points from three FAs, one GA, and four DYKs on military history, as well as 18 reviews
• Arconning (submissions) with 887 round points, mostly from four FLs, six GAs, and seven DYKs on Olympic topics, along with more than two dozen reviews

In addition, we would like to recognize Generalissima (submissions) for her efforts; she scored 801 round points but withdrew before the end of the round.

The full scores for round 2 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 13 featured articles, 20 featured lists, 4 featured-topic articles, 138 good articles, 7 good-topic articles, and more than 100 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 19 In the News articles, and they have conducted nearly 300 reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed in Round 3. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:02, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I am trying to find some evidence for the stated fact that Sans Souci was separated from the farm Questenberg in 1786, for which I can find no proof. Please reply on dr.jc.cornell(at)gmail.com if you can help with this! Thanks in advance. John Cornell. (WhatsApp 0720446677.) 197.95.149.112 (talk) 17:30, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi John, I am afraid I have no idea. I did have a quick look into it but could not find anything. Discott (talk) 15:28, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello. You're invited to participate in The World Destubathon. We're aiming to destub a lot of articles and also improve longer stale articles. It will be held from Monday June 16 - Sunday July 13. There is over $3300 going into it, with $500 the top prize. If you are interested in winning something to save you money in buying books for future content, or just see it as a good editathon opportunity to see a lot of articles improved for subjects which interest you, sign up on the page in the participants section if interested. Even if you can only manage a few articles they would be very much appreciated and help towards making the content produced as diverse and broad as possible!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:08, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The third round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 June. This round was again competitive, with three contestants scoring more than 1,000 round points:

• BeanieFan11 (submissions) with 1,314 round points, mostly from articles about athletes and politicians, including 20 good articles and 48 did you know articles
• Gog the Mild (submissions) with 1,197 round points, mostly from military history articles, including 9 featured topic articles, two featured articles, and four good articles
• Sammi Brie (submissions) with 1,055 round points, mostly from television station articles, including 27 good articles and 9 good topic articles

Everyone who competed in round 3 will advance to round 4 unless they have withdrawn. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far, while the full scores for round 3 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 4 featured articles, 16 featured lists, 1 featured picture, 9 featured-topic articles, 149 good articles, 27 good-topic articles, and more than 90 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 18 In the News articles, and they have conducted more than 200 reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed in Round 4. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:49, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo Discott My name is Liliia, and I represent Hurra.com, a performance marketing and advertising technology company based in Germany. I’m reaching out to inquire whether you would be open to creating a Wikipedia article about our company and its contributions to the digital marketing landscape. Here are soome of our main products: OWAPro – A robust online marketing analytics and bid management platform AdsDefender – A leading ad fraud protection solution

Over the years, Hurra.com has achieved notable milestones, including: - Microsoft Advertising – Independent Partner of the Year 2023 - Winner of the 2023 SEO Contest “Conversionzauber” - Finalist – Omnichannel Excellence Award 2024

We believe Hurra.com could be a suitable candidate for inclusion on Wikipedia. I would be very grateful if you could let us know: - If you are available to assist with the creation of this article - Any requirements or next steps on our part

Thank you very much for your time and consideration. I look forward to hearing from you. Warm regards, Liliia Liliia von Hurra (talk) 13:06, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The fourth round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 29 August. The penultimate round saw three contestants score more than 800 points:

• BeanieFan11 (submissions) with 1,175 round points, mainly from sports-related articles, including 17 good articles, 27 did you know articles, and 9 in the news articles
• Arconning (submissions) with 1,090 round points, mainly from articles about athletes and politicians, including a featured article on Philippines at the 1924 Summer Olympics, 9 good articles, 28 did you know articles, and a wide assortment of featured and good article reviews
• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions) with 854 round points, mostly from a high-scoring featured article on the Indian leader Rani of Jhansi and two good articles, in addition to 13 featured and good article reviews

Everyone who competed in Round 4 will advance to Round 5 unless they have withdrawn. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far, while the full scores for Round 4 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 9 featured articles, 12 featured lists, 98 good articles, 9 good topic articles, more than 150 reviews, nearly 100 did you know articles, and 18 in the news articles.

In advance of the fifth and final round, the judges would like to thank every contestant for their hard work. As a reminder, any content promoted after 29 August but before the start of Round 5 can be claimed in Round 5. In addition, note that Round 5 will end on 31 October at 23:59 UTC. Awards at the end of Round 5 will be distributed based on who has the most tournament points over all five rounds, and special awards will be distributed based on high performance in particular areas of content creation (e.g., most featured articles in a single round).

Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges – Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), Frostly (talk · contribs), Guerillero (talk · contribs) and Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) – are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck!

If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:47, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are duplicate parms in Template:Southern suburbs: type9/description9 which cause the first set (Claremont) not to display. I tried to fix it by renumbering the second set & all subsequent sets, but that results in an error: "The JSON content is not valid". I don't understand the JSON coding, so I'm hoping you can sort it out. Thanks. Davemck (talk) 18:01, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Davemck: I've fixed the problem, just in a typo in entry 20. Greenman (talk) 18:40, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Davemck (talk) 18:44, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Greenman and Davemck for identifying and fixing the problem. I am about to take a second look at it.--Discott (talk) 18:53, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mate. Good that you crested an article for that iconic SA TV show. I had wanted to create one for years but never got around to it. Regards Paul. Conlinp (talk) 10:07, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Conlinp. There are still some aspects about the TV show that I am not sure about. I cant seem to work out if there are only 24 episodes or if there were 3 seasons with 24 episodes each for example. So if you have any additional sources or information about it then please feel free to add to it. Discott (talk) 11:04, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mate. This came up in my page monitoring. As you know more about South African copyright, I thought you might like to have a look and put you two cent in. You may have seen it already. Regards Paul Conlinp (talk) 12:11, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am afraid they are most probably right if the pictures are ofvthe blue plaques and not the old buildings. As the rights to the plaques has not yet expired and SA, still sadly, does not yet have Freedom of Panorama. Discott (talk) 21:08, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The 2025 WikiCup has come to an end. Our top scorers, based on the tournament point rankings (which can be seen here), are:

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Our high scorers in the final round were:

• BeanieFan11 (submissions) with 1,035 round points, mostly from 19 good articles and 21 did you know articles about athletes
• vigilantcosmicpenguin (submissions) with 819 round points, mostly from 13 good articles and 11 did you know articles about a wide range of topics from abortion topics to African cities
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The final round was very productive, and contestants had 2 featured articles, 4 featured lists, 106 good articles, 5 good topic articles, 178 article reviews, 76 did you know articles, and 9 in the news articles. Altogether, Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors all through the contest. Well done everyone!

The top eight scorers will receive awards shortly. The following special awards will be made, based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. These prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field during the competition.

• Gog the Mild (submissions) wins the featured article prize, with 12 featured articles total, and the featured topic prize, with 9 featured topic articles in total
• Hey man im josh (submissions) wins the featured list prize, with 10 featured lists total
• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions) wins the featured picture prize, submitting the only featured picture in the entire contest during round 3
• History6042 (submissions) wins the featured content reviewer prize, with 127 featured content reviews. He will also share the ITN prize, with 20 in the news articles in total.
• BeanieFan11 (submissions) wins the good article prize, with 100 good articles total, and the DYK prize, with 147 did you know articles in total. He will also share the ITN prize, with 20 in the news articles in total.
• TheDoctorWho (submissions) wins the good topic prize, with 16 good topic entries in total
• Arconning (submissions) wins the good article reviewer prize, with 68 good article reviews in total

A special mention also goes to these users who scored the highest in a particular category in a single round:

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Hello! I'm currently writing an article about the Porterville galleon (other language wiki) and since you're the author of the photo (thank you for that!) I'd like to ask if you can help me to identify its location coordinates. For now the closest I've got was that one but since you actually were there may be you can help me to find the exact one. Cheers! Colovia (talk) 16:36, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Colovia thanks for reaching out. I am a bit reluctant to reveal the exact location of historically and botanically sensitive locations like this one for fear of vandalism and poaching but your location is indeed roughly correct. --Discott (talk) 10:08, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I understand, I hadn't thought about it from that angle. I agree that it's better to leave it as it is then. Thank you! Colovia (talk) 11:54, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2026 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor, we hope the WikiCup will give you a chance to improve your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here, and a bot will set up your submissions page within one day, ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page.

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The first round will end on 26 February. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), Frostly (talk · contribs · email), Guerillero (talk · contribs · email) and Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:38, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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The first round of the 2026 WikiCup ended on 26 February. As some of you may have noticed, good article nomination reviews now receive 10 points, an increase from 5 points in the previous year, as per a consensus at WT:CUP. This point increase has been retroactively applied to all good article reviews for which competitors have claimed points in this round. Peer reviews, which continue to be worth 5 points, are now listed in the same section as featured article candidate reviews, rather than with good article reviews. Everyone who competed in round 1 will advance to round 2 unless they have withdrawn or been banned. No other changes to the round-point system have been made for this year.

Round 1 was competitive. Three contestants scored more than 1,000 round points, and the top 16 contestants all scored more than 300 round points. The following competitors scored more than 800 round points:

• Bgsu98 (submissions) with 1,467 round points, largely gained from 1 featured article, 5 featured lists, 15 good articles, and 42 FAC and GAN reviews;
• Olliefant (submissions) with 1,246 round points, largely from 4 featured lists, 9 good articles, 2 featured topic articles, 4 did you know articles, and 75 FAC and GAN reviews;
• Generalissima (submissions) with 1,095 round points, largely from 3 featured articles, 6 good articles, and 5 did you know articles;
• MCE89 (submissions) with 848 round points, largely from 1 featured article, 8 good articles, 1 did you know article, and 32 FAC and GAN reviews; and
• Rollinginhisgrave (submissions) with 838 round points, largely from 1 featured article, 8 good articles, 1 did you know article, and 14 FAC, GAN, and peer reviews.

The full scores for round 1 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 7 featured articles, 16 featured lists, 2 featured-topic articles, 168 good articles, 13 good-topic articles and more than 50 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 14 In the News articles, and they have conducted nearly 700 reviews. The tournament points table will be updated within the next few days.

Remember that any content promoted after 26 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:56, 27 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Your work with the Wikimedia movement is extraordinary, particularly Wikipedia. You write powerful articles and you inspire a lot of us. ZS Khumalo (talk) 09:27, 9 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @ZS Khumalo, that is very kind of you. :-) Discott (talk) 10:02, 12 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I have been following you since we first met at the 2024 JHB Indaba, I was sitting with you in the bus and you powerfully explained to me how photo copyrights actually work and SA advocacy around the matter. Since then I got really attracted to your open knowledge intellectualism and Googled a lot about you, got inspired. For that, I salute you.❤️🤝 ZS Khumalo (talk) 11:06, 12 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @ZS Khumalo those are very kind words. I remember you and that bus trip well. Glad to hear that it inspired you! Discott (talk) 10:02, 24 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]