User talk:Cesdeva

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Cesdeva (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log) • SI)

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Request reason:

Thank you to User:331dot for allowing me to access my talk page. I'm going to take this opportunity to amend my appeal slightly. After some time, i now realise that vandalizing wikipedia articles wasn't a sensible or effective means for protesting civil rights abuses, and that vandalism goes against our common goal of creating and maintaining an encyclopedia for everyone. I would like to take this opportunity to apologise for the disruption caused by my actions, and for abusing the trust placed in me when i was unblocked. If i am troubled by the inaction of the WMF in future, i will instead write a letter directly to the foundation. I owe a personal apology to @Golbez:, who unblocked me in good-faith and community-spirit, and yet i mis-used that freedom to vandalize again and tarnished his unblock decision. I am sorry. I've been socking around the block as User:Zindor. I know that's a fairly standard reason to block me again, but starting with a new account has been eye-opening and has allowed me to re-learn editing. I'm seeking a defacto unblock, i don't mind if my extended-confirmed etc Cesdeva account remains blocked, i would just like to continue editing in the newbie-account Zindor and earn the trust of the community again. Thank you and sorry, Cesdeva ^(talk) 15:35, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I'm, formally only, declining this request, as the Cesdeva account will remain blocked. I'm leaving User:Zindor free to edit, with a note in both block logs, so this is indeed a de facto unblock. Cesdova/Zindor, please note that this is a last chance. Should Zindor edit disruptively, it'll be blocked indefinitely. Good luck, and thanks to everybody who weighed in. Bishonen | tålk 08:41, 27 July 2020 (UTC).[reply]

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@331dot, El C, Golbez, Deepfriedokra, and Sitush: You guys all know more about this case than I do. Please could you note below whether you think it would be allright to let the account Zindor (=the sockpuppet) continue editing, while leaving Cesdova blocked, in view of the request above? If I forgot to ping somebody who has an interest in this, please also comment. Bishonen | tålk 16:42, 26 July 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Since blocks are not supposed to be punitive, and the apology seems sincere to me, I would not object to that course of action. 331dot (talk) 17:02, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I spotted Zindor recently and it was obviously not a new contributor. I have taken an interest in their edits because quite a lot have been to India-related subjects and that is a sock-infested area. Unusually for the topic area, this particular sock seems to have been nothing but a positive contributor. I remember the Cesdeva name but nothing of the circumstances relating to the history of that account. Purely on the basis of their edits as Zindor, I see no reason why they should be prohibited from editing in future. - Sitush (talk) 17:09, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm starting to wonder if there was something wrong with my pings. I'll do them separately: @El C:, @Golbez:, @Deepfriedokra:. Bishonen | tålk 19:22, 26 July 2020 (UTC).[reply]

I'm okay with unblocking any account this blocked individual prefers, providing it is made clear that this is a last chance unblock (maybe that was implied, but I'd rather spell it out). El_C 19:31, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, @El C:, but I don't quite know how to do this, technically, so as to make that clear. Just leaving Cesdeva blocked and leaving Zindor at large (as they are now) won't have that effect. Suggestions? A one-second block of Zindor so as to leave a note in the block log would be... clumsy, but it's all I can think of. Anyway, please talk amongst yourselves, I'm going to bed now. Bishonen | tålk 19:57, 26 July 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Sweet dreams, Bish. A note in the block log of the other account works for me. El_C 20:19, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yah sure. No problems whichever way this goes. I'm ready to welcome them back. --Golbez (talk) 00:40, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Bishonen: You ping with the best of them. Was sleeping. Now working. No objection to unblocking. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:37, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]