User:Donner60

User:Donner60. This is a Wikipedia user page. This is not an encyclopedia article. If you find this page on any site other than Wikipedia, you are viewing a mirror site. Be aware that the page may be outdated and that the user to whom this page belongs may have no personal affiliation with any other site than Wikipedia itself.

If you have a message for me, please leave it at the bottom of my talk page, not on this page. Thank you.

I may be offline for a few days at various times over the next six weeks. It is a busy time for me in RL. I think I will be online most days, but may not be able to spend a large amount of time most days. I will do my best to keep up with coordinator tasks and not let things pile up. Donner60 (talk) 07:09, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

This user has been on Wikipedia for 15 years, 8 months and 27 days.

This user has autopatrolled rights on the English Wikipedia. (verify)

This user has created 134 articles on Wikipedia.

This user has extended confirmed rights on the English Wikipedia. (verify)

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This user has pending changes reviewer rights on the English Wikipedia. (verify)

This user has written or expanded 22 articles featured in the Did You Know section on the Main Page.

This user has reviewed 35 DYK nominations.

This user has made over
240,300 edits to Wikipedia.

235

As of 22:06, 7 March 2026 (UTC), this editor was number 235 on the List of Wikipedians by number of edits.

This editor has been ranked as high as number 168 on the List of Wikipedians by number of edits.

This user has been editing Wikipedia for more than 15 years.

This user has rescued 1 article by improving it in the face of pending deletion.

This editor has reanimated 1 article by improving it for reinstatement.

This editor is interested in History.

This user is a member of
WikiProject Military history.

This user has overhauled many articles on Wikipedia. Some are listed below.

vn-895

This editor's user page, talk page, or subpages have been vandalized 895 times.

1720+

This user has made more than 1720 reports to Administrator intervention against vandalism.

This user is a member of the
American Civil War task force
of WikiProject Military history.

This user believes that a user's edit count does not necessarily reflect on the value of their contributions to Wikipedia.

This user has been awarded
38 Barnstars on Wikipedia.

This user tries to do the right thing. If he makes a mistake, please let him know.

This user is a coordinator of the Military history WikiProject.

Except for a 49-second mistaken block, this user is block free - (see my block log here!).

This editor has discovered 3 extant hoax articles, which have been deleted

This editor has created more than 245 redirect pages on Wikipedia.

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This editor has changed 4 redirects to substantive articles.

This user has been the victim
of an unintentional block.

This user has new page reviewer rights on the English Wikipedia. (verify)

This user has been identified as an awesome Wikipedian.

This user has been awarded with the 100000 Edits award.

Facts from articles by this editor were in the On this day section of the Main Page on June 17, 2012, March 29, 2015, April 1, 2015, April 1, 2019 and June 1, 2022.

26+

This user has made more than 26 reports to Requests for page protection.

Because (1) real life may intervene and (2) research may be required for new content, this user's editing may be on and off.

As of March 2, 2026, this user was ranked 6140 on the List of Wikipedians by article count.

This editor is a
Grandmaster Editor First-Class
and is entitled to display this Mithril Editor Star with the Neutronium Superstar hologram.

AfD

This editor has commented/!voted on 58 Articles for Deletion. 52 !votes matched consensus. 2 !vote results had no consensus but !votes had same result, 3 non-matches !votes, w/ 2 !votes keep, 3rd !vote delete, then agreed nc, keep; 1 redirected.

UAA

This user has reported 14 user names to Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention; the user pages were deleted or users blocked indefinitely.

This user provides information using user boxes for statistical reasons.

Editing Wikipedia is something this user does as a hobby.

RfA
RfB

This editor has !voted or commented on 179 Requests for Administratorship;
10 Requests for Bureaucratship

This user was awarded a Silver Wiki by the Military History WikiProject for runner-up 2024 Military historian of the year.

This user has nominated 612 pages for speedy deletion: 596 deleted, 16 kept, (6 expanded/rewritten, 1 redirected, 3 mistaken tags; 5 removed by a user); at least 6 pages later re-added. ACTRIAL implemented; few more expected.

This user survived a
COVID-19 infection twice.

This user has saved or helped save one or more good articles on Wikipedia.

This user was awarded a Silver Wiki by the Military History WikiProject for runner-up 2025 Military historian of the year.

This user prefers the Legacy version of the Vector skin to the 2022 version.

This user is not an administrator on the English Wikipedia. (verify)

This user has page mover rights on the English Wikipedia. (verify)

Further details or comments about the information in the user boxes are in the collapsible sections below or in sub-pages linked in those sections. I created sub-pages to store information which had become too long for a user page or which might have been making the page hard to save or load. Some of the sub-pages may be getting stale due to lack of updates. I may delete them entirely or reduce them in size. If reduced in size enough or deleted, I may add some information from such sub-pages back onto this page.

No off-Wikipedia posts. I have no comments or other posts on a site other than Wikipedia, whether under Donner60 or Donner or any variation of Donner. If you see any such comments or posts on other sites, they are not mine. I have added this note after my more than 15 years as a Wikipedia user because I saw a comment posted under a signature which was a variation of Donner on another website. I have seen posts on other user pages here which have such disclaimers about off-Wikipedia posts. I never before thought I ought to add such a disclaimer for clarification about off-Wikipedia posts by someone else. Since I have seen such an off-Wiki comment with a similar Donner signature (rather innocuous though the post appeared to be), I thought I should also make this disclaimer on my Wikipedia user page as well.

Mistaken Block. I show this explanation of being blocked for 49 seconds in 2013 in the user boxes and in the collapsible section below. Recently, the block was casually mentioned on another page. So I have thought I should emphasize that this was a mistake by adding this explanation here. In fact, my block log should be clean as of December 2, 2025 and is clean except for that 49-second mistaken block. I had reported a vandal who had reached the fifth instance of vandalism. The administrator blocked me by mistake, immediately recognized the mistake and lifted the block. I have the message about this in the collapsible section. It was a long time ago and is explainable. But I still want to be able to claim a clean record as of the day of this post, as long as it lasts, which I certainly plan for it to do. Because of the unfortunate circumstances of the block and its lingering presence if casually and incompletely viewed or expressed, I am adding this explanation. Apparently, the block is not removable from the log, or remains available without any of the explanation of the helpful comment that is now shown. So to some extent it remains on one's record forever and requires explanation if brought up despite being a brief and explainable mistake.

Ratings of my articles; GAs; GA reassessment work. Some of my earlier articles were rated start or C by the rogue editor Wild Wolf, since indefinitely blocked. Wild Wolf was rating several of my articles and other users articles per minute at times. He obviously wasn't reviewing or assessing the articles, merely checking off at least one B class criterion as deficient. I wrote these articles many years ago. I have not gone over them recently to see if they are still actually B class or possibly even GA class. I think I should ask for reassessment only after I have time to review my articles to see if they have deteriorated and now need work for a higher class assessment.
I never have ask for a GA assessment of one of my articles. The effect of Wild Wolf's bogus rating sprees may continue to be largely responsible for that. During and after those bogus ratings, I decided just to write good, at least B class articles, rather than to spend more time concentrating on the assessments for fewer of them. In fact, I had not even been requesting B class assessments.
In recent times, there have been far more GA requests than the number of regular assessors have time to assess. Adding to the difficulty in getting a GA assessment and the time spent on GAs, is the need for quid pro quo assessments, even with initial requests. Perhaps that is fair enough and also somewhat reduces the high volume of GA assessment requests.
I have had extra tasks as a coordinator for the military history project since October 2023. So I am unlikely to spend time to put articles up for GA assessments soon. I do have one or two that I think would qualify so I may make some time for those requests and quid pro quos sooner.
Nonetheless, I have saved or helped save nine good article assessments since October 2023. So I do have some experience with how to meet the requirements for good articles. I will continue to try to save other GA assessments, time permitting, on topics of particular interest to me and for which I have sources, such as books in my personal library, which are readily available.

My main content creation and improvement topics. My content creation and improvement/addition work is usually in military history articles, including biographies of military leaders. Most of these articles are about the American Civil War. However, in late July and August 2020, I created seven new articles on members of the earliest sessions of the Virginia House of Burgesses. I had created some articles on other Burgesses several years ago. I intend to start at least brief articles on all the members of the first session in 1619 and later on other later burgesses whom I think are of interest. Many prominent burgesses of the late 18th century are already the subject of articles but many such articles still need to be written. I also have added a few articles on early railroads, the American Revolutionary War and some random biographies, including a World War II/Korean War general, which I consider one of my best.

My library; book lists. The lists of my books in various sub-pages are especially useful for research and for having citations in at least one of the proper forms available for use in writing or editing articles. See the collapsible section about these lists below.

Fewer edits due to change in focus to content creation, improvement and other tasks, not less time on Wikipedia. Posted in late 2022 or early 2023: I have decided to work more on content creation and improvement for the foreseeable future with little if any use of Huggle. My place in the list of editors by edit has been falling even as I become more active again after a time of limited activity due mainly due to covid and health issues, strains on Wikipedia due to overload of additional users during covid times, other real life business and computer problems, including Huggle not working for me. I have given up regular vandalism patrolling and returned to regular writing and editing as well as military history project coordinator work since October 2023. So the declining edit count now is not a result of low activity as it was just before and in peak covid times. There are a smaller number of military history coordinators now than in most years past. So additional time for coordinator tasks is needed to take care of the requests and other tasks for the project than may have true in the past.

New Vector Skin. I am using the old skin for viewing and editing. That skin better suits my viewing of pages with its larger margins and size. If you view this page with the new vector skin, you will see the user boxes scattered about instead of in tidy lines of four and you will see more lines of text. I may change the layout to fit the new skin while continuing to use the old for reading and writing generally, if I can accomplish that split viewing or use. I can't make it a priority, however. To the extent I can be online, as noted in the next paragraph, I have several articles that I am editing or revising and have limited time to work on such thing. Since October 2023, I also have military history project coordinator work. I suspect that my using of the old skin will only affect this page not other pages that I work on and that it will only be of minor effect for a limited number of readers. I hope and assume readers won't mind the appearance of the page in the new skin if I don't edit the page to accommodate it or don't succeed in making the split use, since I have no practice in using or adding the new skin. Also, since there is an option to switch between the skins that may clear up viewing some pages, including this one, which may help readers without a need for me to work on this. I'll check that at some time if I can find time and think about it. Then I may be able to shorten considerably or eliminate this paragraph. The new skin is not without some merit. I do like the new simultaneous side-by-side preview pane which makes it faster and easier to find errors in an edit. It especially seems to help get those pesky ISBNs in correct form.

This page has become rather long, especially if the sub-pages are included. I like to keep an accessible record of what I have done over the years. I have been writing and editing and doing gnome type work for more than 15 years as I write this so it has become lengthy and, I must admit, a few items (noted where relevant) may no longer be complete. I also like to keep some Wikipedia templates, guidelines and other information available for ready reference. I have noticed that other editors often do the same.

To do

Note: That this list has not been changed much from late 2023 and forward so some of these items may have been done by others or may otherwise be of lower priority or obsolete. I'll give it a closer look as time permits. Highest priority; priorities more or less in this order unless a task can be done quickly
A. Military history project coordinator work.
B. GA reassessments of military history articles as time permits.
Then
1a. Correct Battle of Gettysburg casualty revision.
1. Improve Battle of Atlanta to regain GA assessment.
2. Rewrite Battle of Augusta (1862).
3. Improve Grierson's Raid; improve Battle of Newton's Station or merge it into Grierson's Raid.
Middle priority:
4. Finish expanding John McClernand for possible higher assessment rating.
5. Minor expansion and clarification of attention to text about care of wounded in Battle of Gettysburg and possibly reduce or improve concluding sections.
6. Finish improvement of Battle of Greenbrier River.
Lower priority:
7. Finish new 1st Louisiana Heavy Artillery Battery article.
8. Add Missing House of Burgesses bios for 1619 session; brief ones if necessary to start.
9. Copy edit, improve introductory sections American Civil War brevet Union generals list
10. Possible Greenback Raid article.
11. Complete offline or in sandbox and post an article on Bvt. Gen. Andrew J. Alexander, if an adequate one can be completed (already started).
12. Work on requested American Civil War articles for military history project to the extent such articles can be written consistent with notability, verifiability etc. I have some started with a paragraph and source or two but they now have to take low priority.
13. 14. 15. Minor battle articles Battle of Albuquerque, Battle of Brentwood need better citations and possibly a little expansion; George B. Boomer could be expanded a little.
And:
Some gnome work; adding needed references to articles.
I will try to spend time on article improvements but only when I can devote some periods of time online on a given day. I don't want to be distracted from military history project coordinator work or work on priority items, such as answering questions and posting comments on military history matters raised on the military history project talk page for long periods of time or I will not be able to get such tasks done as promptly as they should be cone.
If an important article needs prompt work to keep assessments or correct errors, I will add them to the priority list if I can, or just go ahead with the work without listing them. In general, I don't want to put off existing priorities or needed military history project coordinator work unless other significant work is more urgent or of higher priority.
If someone brings to my attention needed work of an article in my area of concentration that I think I can help on, I will try help if I can. Again, unless a quick response or fix is possible, my already rather long list and the military history project coordinator work and possible gnome work mentioned almost certainly will need to take priority. Quick completion time estimates likely will not be possible (or, alternatively put, I should not promise more or faster work than I can reasonably deliver). I have been giving attention to working on GA reassessments in my military history areas of concentration.
I will defer or abandon work on an existing article if I cannot find enough sources to fix problems or make improvements in a timely manner. I will make such deferrals or give up on improvements, at least for long periods, if other time pressures or higher priority work will not allow me to finish these tasks in a reasonable time.

Military History Project

To help find important pages at the wikiproject military history; have also bookmarked these and a few others.

Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history

Template:WikiProject Military history/doc full project banner including task forces

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{{WPMILHIST}} project banner

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{{@MILHIST}} ping co-odinators

Template:Importance scheme

Template:Article importance

Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Academy/Citations and references

Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators Coordinator talk page

Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Academy/Becoming a coordinator

Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Academy

Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment

Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Requests

Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/A-Class review

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Military history articles by quality log

Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Contest/Entries

User:MilHistBot

User:Evad37/rater Rater helps fill in assessments and other parameters for WikiProject banners. Find it in the "Tools" dropdown menu on the default Vector (2022) skin. Use Alt+5 to open Rater (on Windows, or a similar combination for other OSs) without using the dropdown menu. Rater is available from either the page itself or its talk page, in all namespaces, apart from Special pages and base User and User talk pages (but is still available for userspace drafts in subpages).

B-class criteria

B1. It is suitably referenced, and all major points have appropriate inline citations.
B2. It reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies.
B3. It has a defined structure, including a lead section and one or more sections of content.
B4. It is free from major grammatical errors.
B5. It contains appropriate supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams.

Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history Scope. 8 broad areas. 2. Military personnel, including both leaders and common soldiers, as well as other people involved in military affairs.[Note 3] Military service does not in and of itself place an individual within the scope of the project—particularly in the case of service in modern militaries. To qualify them, an individual's military service must have been somehow noteworthy or have contributed—directly or indirectly—to their notability.

{{notaround|3=15<second number is day> month, year}} left Wikipedia template

User:Donner60/Military History Project duplicates review alerts for now; maybe add to this or remove it

Draft for April Bugle {{WPMILHIST Newsletter section header 2|Contest department}} {| style="float: right; margin-left: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em; background: transparent;" |- style="vertical-align:top;text-align: center;" | [[File:WikiChevrons.png|40x40px]] [[File:Writer's barnstar.png|40x40px]] |} The March 2026 edition of the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Contest|contest department]]'s article writing-and-improvement contest saw {{u|A.Cython}} take the top spot with 5 articles, 1 brought to GA class, for 31 points. A.Cython received the WikiChevrons. {{u|Zawed}} finished second with 3 for 17 points. Zawed received the Writers Barnstar.<br> Other entries were by {{u|Djmaschek}} with 2 articles for 11 points, {{u|Hog Farm}} with 1 article brought to FA class for 5 points and {{u|Sturmvogel_66}} with 3 articles for 12 points.<br> Monthly totals are applied to the overall 2026 Writers Cup, which will be decided after the close of the December contest.<br> The April edition of the contest is now open. Please consider submitting your current article projects as entries into this friendly competition. {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/April 2026/Footer}}

Format; Lists; Vandalism to this page: Semi-protection

The somewhat makeshift collection of user boxes to start the page was a small group at first. Through additions, it became longer. I found that I could not readily disentangle the cross full page grouping. Perhaps it is the combination of conventional, reconstructed and custom boxes. Maybe I just haven't taken enough time to find the right formatting. Now, it does not seem worth the time to change the page to place the user boxes in a column or two. I may try to do that some day or place them all at the bottom of the page, as some users have done. Since most of my content is in collapsible lists, that placement of user boxes at the bottom seems to me to be much the same as the current format. I would rather not hide them in sections because much of my information about what I do and have done here is in them. I had adjusted the format enough so the user boxes didn't scatter around the screen but I suppose they may not display quite as well on screens with narrower margins and, as noted above, will probably scatter again with the 2022 vector skin discussed above.

I now use collapsible sections to keep a compact first look at the page and the content topics. Over the years, lists of my articles, activities at the project, research library and other matters related to the project have grown. I have created sub-pages to keep this content because this page had too many bytes and even as revised had sometimes still been hard to save. I had to split some of the original sub-pages for this reason but perhaps that is better anyway. Most of my books used for research are listed on some of them.

I occasionally have been interested by lists (including the lists about my activities here). Many years ago I bought a book entitled: The Book of Lists by David Wallechinsky, Irving Wallace and Amy Wallace; New York: Morrow, 1977: ISBN 978-0-688-03183-1 (which became a #1 bestseller). I have created (italics) or largely expanded some lists here at Wikipedia including: List of American Civil War generals, List of American Civil War generals (Union), List of American Civil War brevet generals (Union), List of American Civil War generals (Confederate), List of American Civil War generals (Acting Confederate), List of members of the Virginia House of Burgesses, Timeline of events leading to the American Civil War, Bibliography of the American Revolutionary War, and Bibliography of the American Civil War.

The number of times my pages have been vandalized in the user box is the number of separate edits by vandals. A few vandals made several edits before their vandalism was reverted. So, I have added all or most of the vandalism edits to my pages to the userbox count. Thanks to User:DeltaQuad, now AmandaNP, for keeping this number stable by semi-protecting this page on October 31, 2016.

Vandalism
Level 1
Level 2
Level 3
Level 4
Level 5

Sub-page lists: DYK awards and articles moved; On this day articles; Barnstars and Barnstars awarded link

Template awards for my DYK articles and a list of DYK articles that I have reviewed have been moved to User:Donner60/DYK. I have retained the text of my DYK articles in a section below as well.

My On this day Articles:
A June 17 anniversary from one of the new articles that I created appeared on the On this day section of the Main Page on June 17, 2012:
1861 – American Civil War: The Battle of Vienna, Virginia, took place, which involved one of the earliest military movements of troops by train in the world.

A March 29 anniversary from two articles that I rewrote and substantially expanded (Appomattox Campaign and Battle of Lewis's Farm) appeared in the "On this day" section of the Main Page on March 29, 2015:
1865 – American Civil War: The Appomattox Campaign opened with the Battle of Lewis's Farm, in which the Confederate States Army was forced into a series of retreats that would culminate in their surrender.

An April 1 anniversary from an article that I substantially expanded, Battle of Five Forks although stated in an April Fool way, appeared in the "On this day" section of the Main Page on April 1, 2015: 1865 – American Civil War: Ordered to hold five forks, Confederate General George Pickett (pictured) instead lost almost 3,000

A June 1, 2022 On this day anniversary article: 1861 – The first land battle of the American Civil War after Fort Sumter took place in the village of Fairfax, Virginia.

When I thought to check the latter two articles at a later date, not long after they were used in the On this day section, I had contributed 84.6% of the text of Appomattox Campaign, 89.7% of the content of Battle of Lewis's Farm and 91.8% of the content of Battle of Five Forks. So I think it was fair to include them. Despite the addition of some irrelevant content about re-enactments and commemorations added by another editor, my contribution to the article was still 83.0% of the content at the time of the later post on this page.

An April 1 anniversary from an article that I substantially expanded, Battle of Five Forks again appeared in the "On this day" section of the Main Page on April 1, 2019: "1865 – American Civil War: The Union Army inflicted over 2,900 casualties on the Confederates in the Battle of Five Forks." The page history still showed that the great majority of the article was written by me as of the date of the on this day posting.

Barnstars Awarded and Given

Moved to User:Donner60/Barnstars

Military Historian of the Year 2024 - second place

The Silver Wiki

Congratulations! You have been selected in second place for the Military Historian of the Year by a popular vote of your peers in recognition of your contributions to the English Wikipedia's coverage of military history. On behalf of the coordinators of WikiProject Military history, it is my pleasure to present the esteemed Silver Wiki. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:52, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Military Historian of the Year 2025 - Runner up

The Silver Wiki

Congratulations! You have been selected in second place for the Military Historian of the Year by a popular vote of your peers in recognition of your contributions to the English Wikipedia's coverage of military history. On behalf of the coordinators of WikiProject Military history, it is my pleasure to present the esteemed Silver Wiki. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:11, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

My reports to AIV; My Welcomes/Advice Links Placed

AIV Reports:
I have created new sub-pages User:Donner60/AIV Reports and User:Donner60/AIV Reports 2 for the list of my AIV reports and their dispositions. Over the years the number has grown so large that this page and the first report page became slower to save, if they would save at all.

I am keeping the following summary text and statistics on AIV reports here and on User:Donner60/AIV Reports 2. I have stopped updating them on User:Donner60/AIV Reports since they would logically be with the latest reports.

Introductory paragraph to AIV Reports statistics: As of March 7, 2026 I have made distinct reports on 1721 vandals/disruptive users to AIV; so user box shows 1720+.; 1692 resulted in blocks; (plus 1 user not blocked on my report but blocked by another administrator 2 days later). I noted in detail the reasons that no action was taken on most of the reports here and on the last AIV Report page. I am deleting those reasons here and may do so there or cut them back. Most were reports that were not acted upon were considered stale and/or where there was no further vandalism by the vandal, not where there was a problem with the report. Most of the stale reports were made on Saturday nights where little or no action had been taken on the all of the reports for several hours. Two were in cases where page protection was placed on the pages the vandals were acting on.

Even so, as of March 7, 2026, in round numbers 98.5% of my reports over the years have resulted in blocks and the others were not declined because they were wrong but due to technicalities, usually because they were "stale."

I occasionally will simply undo an edit which is merely wrong, with explanation, or, probably less often, add a clarification or a reference. Disruptive editing and other reasons for reverts are among reasons listed by Huggle and can harm articles as much or more than outright vandalism. Template warnings are tailored to the reasons.

I try not to use a vandalism template when a more specific and accurate one should be used. However, the first template warning for "vandalism" covers an edit not being constructive. So I think this can be appropriate for several types of bad edits without an outright claim of vandalism. I think that reporting a user who has fewer than four plus one vandalisms (etc.) can be premature, especially if the user has no previous block or long history of vandalism barely evading blocks. There are situations where reports are appropriate when there have been fewer than four warnings, such as serious vandalism to biographies of living persons.

I try to avoid Huggle false reports because of escalations of templates or failure to take into account an intervening block. I have added up to four manual warnings plus one vandalism before reporting a user to AIV when I see new vandalism after one block or prior warnings that are not recent and Huggle might place a higher level template. While I feel that I should add these thoughts because this has been a large (though not the only) area of my activity in recent years, this is not in direct response to anything directed to me. I think a look at my talk page would show that.

Welcomes; Informative Messages:

I have left many extra messages on user talk pages which have early template messages, usually from me. I have put these extra messages on the pages of users whom I think are making mistakes because of lack of knowledge of Wikipedia guidelines, styles and policies and possibly not intentionally vandalizing or disrupting the encyclopedia. I may think they could be good candidates for encouragement to become a productive user or not make guideline or style mistakes. I hope at least a few disruptive users become constructive contributors when the information is considered. The pages on which messages have been left are listed at User:Donner60/Welcomes. Most of these messages have advice with links and other tips but without the welcome language I used on the first messages. I decided to keep the welcome title rather than rename or move the page.

Since the list was getting long, on January 19, 2016, I moved it to the User:Donner60/Welcomes sub-page to reduce the bytes on my user page. Since the first Welcome sub-page in turn was getting long, I decided to create a second sub-page User:Donner60/Welcomes 2 listing messages starting January 1, 2020. I have made no further edits to the first Welcomes page.

I decided to discontinue this list as of June 30, 2021, although I will continue to leave such welcome or informative messages under similar circumstances. Continuing the list just reiterates the above points and the fact that I have left a large number of such messages. Now it seems to be wasted time and unnecessary edits to continue the list. Most messages were placed on talk pages of IP users. If those users register, there is no way for me to track whether they have become an active, productive user. I hope at least some of them have become regular productive editors or may still do so.

Sub-page lists: My AfD reviews; My Speedy Deletion reviews

Individual Articles for Deletion (AfDs) reviewed and I votes
Through March 7, 2026User:Donner60/Deletions

Speedy Deletion nominations, results/CSD Log:
Through March 7, 2026: 612 nominations; 595 deletions, at least 16 kept after expansion or rewriting but a few others may have been re-created properly more recently than the date on which I added the "kept" information, 3 of my nominations were clear mistakes. Further explanations, including reasons for declined reports, and the table of nominations and results also have been moved to User:Donner60/Deletions.

Prod: Treaty of Andernach (1059) deleted 11/11/24; Adrushy mine, DRDO Fluffy, Feliks de Melfort, and Dirk Boonstra (resistance fighter, born 1920) all four of these in November 2025 backlog drive; probably incomplete

Sub-pages, most in this section are My Libraries (Bibliographies); Reference Use; And Sandboxes

I have created My Library (bibliography) pages so that I can more easily find research and references in my books to add content or citations to articles or to create new articles. The titles are shown in Chicago Manual of Style format. Note from Wikipedia:Citing sources. July 17, 2016: "While citations should aim to provide the information listed above, Wikipedia does not have a single house style, though citations within any given article should follow a consistent style. A number of citation styles exist including those described in the Wikipedia articles for Citation, APA style, ASA style, MLA style, The Chicago Manual of Style, Author–date referencing, Vancouver system and Bluebook." I use the Chicago Manual of Style format because I found it easier to understand and edit when I started contributing to Wikipedia. It can have one or two more pieces of information than those in other formats. In 2018, "magic links" have been deprecated and the advantage of automatically checked ISBNs can be attained by using the correct format for ISBNs and still use the Chicago Manual of Style format. Wikipedia:Book sources and Help:ISBN are pertinent Wikipedia pages.

I have split the library into several pages because one page became too long to save easily and because I have added some topics that I occasionally use. In turn, I have added sections to pages with many titles for easier reference and to more easily save sections. In some cases I moved and renamed previous sub-pages that I was not using and did not really need to keep. I had shown them with the titles but have now omitted them as superfluous.

User:Donner60/Military History Library. Includes books on all wars in which the United States has been a party through the Korean War (and one book on the Viet Nam war), a few world history of wars and specialized topics and major European wars since the early 1700s, including the Napoleonic Wars, unless the wars involving the United States are included in one of the separate pages shown next.

User:Donner60/Colonial era bibliography.

User:Donner60/American Revolution Library.

User:Donner60/American Civil War Library.

User:Donner60/American Civil War Library References, General Topics.

User:Donner60/American Civil War Library Biographies, Memoirs, Overviews.

User:Donner60/sandbox 3. As of December 1 2020, this has my American Civil War library full list in alphabetical by author for possible future additional reference.

User:Donner60/American Civil War bibliography from Internet.

User:Donner60/World War II Library.

User:Donner60/Ancient, Medieval and Miscellaneous History Library. The miscellaneous history is mostly European history and almost all early and medieval history.

User:Donner60/General and Miscellaneous History Library includes general histories, railroads, religions, American Old West.

User:Donner60/Science Library

User:Donner60/ACW References. American Civil War facts and sources for reference and future edits; some general article links. This was only a start and I now must consider whether it is worth gathering this reference material online, especially since I have added or used little or nothing from it in recent years.

User:Donner60/References.

User:Donner60/Wikipedia article links. A few references, links, templates, and odds and ends; mostly project pages: editing, formatting, citations, style. I have not used this much in recent years and will think about some change or even deletion.

User:Donner60/sandbox Main user sandbox for user from Wikipedia; the one linked at top of the page. May have a draft or content from time to time.

User:Donner60/Sandbox Currently has a few templates.

User:Donner60/sandbox 2. For development of drafts (articles or discussion points or positions). Has various Wikipedia guidelines and templates.

User:Donner60/sandbox 3. As of December 1 2020, this has my American Civil War library full list in alphabetical by author for possible future additional reference.

User:Donner60/sandbox 4. For drafts: currently 1st Louisiana Heavy Artillery Battery. (New)

User:Donner60/sandbox 5. For drafts: currently Grierson's Raid. (Improvement)

User:Donner60/sandbox 6. For drafts: drafts of first shot from Battles of Lexington and Concord for revision and use in shot hear round the world article

User:Donner60/sandbox 7. For drafts: currently Battle of Atlanta, or part (Expansion, improvement)

User:Donner60/sandbox 8. For creating American Civil War surveys and overviews from my books and a few other sources

User:Donner60/sandbox 9. Currently, Battle of Arlington Mills rewrite draft

User:Donner60/sandbox 10 Removed content, now available for a new project

Articles that I have created

This list started with the list generated by clicking the link in the "articles created" user box as of October 12, 2016. This has been rechecked occasionally. I should have numbered them in reverse order to start with. Now, in order not to have to recopy and format the list with the newer articles, I have added them to the top of the list using the reverse order. That is the reason for number 1 following number 112. The list started in order by date created with most recent first but numbered 1.

I don't have the articles linked because I thought it would be a nuisance to have this page show up on the "what links here" list for each article.

I asked for two articles which I had just started, Battle of Green River and Battle of Gravelly Run to be deleted. I recall starting these as redirects but then noticed there was more than one battle which had these titles as alternate names. These two now show on the list as deleted articles although I intended them only as redirects and then asked for deletion myself when I discovered they would not work as redirects. The log shows that I requested the deletions and the sizes of the pages were 41 and 36 bytes.

In addition, I am now credited with a disambiguation page creation. It is a page that I started as a redirect and I don't think I should count it so I have reduced the number in the userbox by one. That is why, as of October 13, 2023, my pages created page shows 132 with 3 having been deleted. Subtracting the redirect > disambiguation page. With a new article posted December 1, 2024, I show 132 in the user box above.

When a long hiatus in the Wikipedia user article count list page started, I was number 4795 for articles and redirects created. The new list shows only articles created so I dropped down the list. It is revised once, occasionally twice, per month. My place in the table of articles as of a more recent date created is shown in the user box above.

Most, perhaps recently all, of my articles have been checked for assessments. The rogue and now indefinitely blocked editor User: Wild Wolf assessed a great many military history articles as start and checked one of the criteria at random, often citations, as insufficient. He did this so fast and so carelessly that it is obvious that he did not read or check the articles. I am sure at least some of my start articles should be assessed B. Perhaps I will take the time some day to as for B level reassessment, since C is the highest level to which a user can now reassess an article which they wrote. I should check them to see if they have degraded more recently before asking.

Articles created as of December 1, 2024:

132. Lafayette Presbyterian Church (Georgia) 2024-12-01 (self assessed stub)
131. John Pollington 2020-08-12
130. Edmund Rossingham 2020-08-10
129. William Sharpe (burgess) 2020-08-10
128. William Spencer (burgess) 2020-08-10
127. William Spence (burgess) 2020-08-07
126. Samuel Sharpe (burgess) 2020-07-29
125. William Reading Montgomery 2020-06-28
124. John Love (General) 2020-03-31 (assessed B)
123. Battle of Camp Davies 2020-03-29 (assessed C)
122. Friend Smith Rutherford 2020-03-28 (assessed B)
122. Thomas Grimke Rhett 2020-03-26 (assessed B)
120. Albemarle Cady 2020-03-22 (assessed B)
119. Gustavus Adolphus Smith 2020-03-19 (assessed B)
118. Military Division of the James 2019-08-18
117. David Henry Williams 2018-04-30
116. Battle of Rome Cross Roads 2018-04-30 (assessed C)
115. Henry Boynton Clitz 2018-04-29 (assessed B)
114. Justus McKinstry 2018-04-20 (assessed B)
113. Alabama Central Railroad 2018-02-16
112. Battle of Cassville 2016-05-20 (I created this as a redirect; User:Djmaschek found it was a separate battle and turned it into a good article. I really shouldn't have credit for creating this. On the other hand, I have turned four redirects into articles and added almost all of the content to a some stub or start articles and that is the way the count is done. So thanks to Djmaschek and my good luck, or good karma, as to listing this one.)
1. John F. R. Seitz 2016-10-11 (assessed B)
2. Eric J. Wittenberg 2016-07-08
3. Burns Tracy Walling 2016-01-06 (assessed B)
4. Cato (spy) 2014-05-29
5. Jonas Hawkins 2014-05-19 (assessed C)
6. Anna Strong (spy) 2014-05-05 (assessed B)(page views 7-1-15-6-24-2025 - 1,073,651; likely very many in preceding 14 months
7. Robert Savin 2014-02-08
8. Robert Beasley (burgess) 2014-02-08 (assessed stub
9. Atlantic and North Carolina Railroad 2013-12-26
10. Upson County Railroad 2013-12-19
11. Selma and Meridian Railroad 2013-12-19
12. Rogersville and Jefferson Railroad 2013-12-18
13. Cahaba, Marion and Greensboro Railroad 2013-12-18
14. East Tennessee and Georgia Railroad 2013-12-17
15. East Tennessee and Virginia Railroad 2013-12-17
16. Atlantic, Tennessee and Ohio Railroad 2013-12-17
17. Thomas Herrick 2013-10-28
18. Henry Herrick 2013-10-27
19. Thomas Haynes (burgess) 2013-10-27
20. Abraham Iverson 2013-10-26 stub
21. Battle of Fairfax Court House (June 1863) 2013-07-11 (assessed B)
22. Richard Buck (chaplain) 2013-05-05
23. Robert Abrahall 2013-03-06
24. Thomas Wotton (surgeon) 2013-03-02
25. Hancock Custis 2013-03-02
26. Charles W. Adams (Confederate general) 2012-12-23
27. Chambersburg Raid 2012-10-12
28. George Paul Harrison, Sr. 2012-10-08
29. Jeptha Vining Harris 2012-09-29
30. Jeptha Vining Harris (doctor) 2012-09-28
31. Jeptha Vining Harris (Georgia general) 2012-09-26
32. Jeptha Vining Harris (Mississippi general) 2012-09-24
33. David Bullock Harris 2012-09-21
34. William Henry Harman 2012-09-16
35. Albert Creswell Garlington 2012-09-13
36. Wilmot Gibbes de Saussure 2012-09-11
37. Joseph H. Tucker 2012-08-21
38. George Fawdon 2012-08-19
39. Reuben Walker Carswell 2012-08-13
40. F. Blair Wimbush 2012-08-12
41. Edward Rhodes Carswell 2012-08-11
42. Gilbert S. Meem 2012-08-09
43. Gibbs Point 2012-08-03
44. James Harvey Carson 2012-07-31
45. James Boggs (general) 2012-07-31
46. Francis Marion Walker 2012-07-29 (assessed B)
47. James Cameron (Union colonel) 2012-07-27 (assessed B, July 29, 2010)
48. Robert Johnson Henderson 2012-07-21
49. William Henry Chase 2012-07-20
50. Moses Wright Hannon 2012-07-16
51. James Hagan (Confederate colonel) 2012-07-13
52. Henry Marshall Ashby 2012-07-09
53. Robert Plunket Maclay 2012-07-08
54. Levin Major Lewis 2012-07-05
55. Wilburn Hill King 2012-07-03
56. List of American Civil War generals (Acting Confederate) 2012-06-29
57. Benjamin Franklin Gordon 2012-06-29
58. Horace Randal 2012-06-24
59. William Hugh Young 2012-02-07
60. Claudius C. Wilson 2012-02-04
61. Thomas H. Taylor 2012-02-03
62. David A. Weisiger 2012-01-27
63. William Henry Wallace 2012-01-26
64. William Stephen Walker 2012-01-22
65. Henry Harrison Walker 2012-01-22
66. Allen Thomas 2012-01-21
67. Walter H. Stevens 2012-01-20
68. Ezra Warner 2012-01-20
69. Ezra J. Warner (historian) 2012-01-20
70. Clement H. Stevens 2012-01-19
71. James P. Simms 2012-01-17
72. John C. C. Sanders 2012-01-16
73. Isaac M. St. John 2012-01-15
74. Daniel H. Reynolds 2011-12-28
75. William F. Perry 2011-12-17 (assessed B, March 14, 2012)
76. Patrick T. Moore 2011-12-05
77. Young Marshall Moody 2011-11-28
78. William W. Mackall 2011-11-28 (assessed B, December 1, 2011)
79. Alfred E. Jackson 2011-11-18
80. Benjamin J. Hill 2011-11-16
81. Edward Higgins (Confederate general) 2011-11-15
82. Thomas Harrison (general) 2011-11-14
83. James E. Harrison 2011-11-13
84. Nathaniel H. Harris 2011-10-26
85. William Polk Hardeman 2011-10-25
86. William M. Gardner 2011-10-15
87. Julius A. De Lagnel 2011-10-13
88. George B. Cosby 2011-10-13
89. Alexander William Campbell (general) 2011-10-12
90. Stephen Elliott, Jr. 2011-07-26
91. James Conner 2011-07-26
92. James Conner (general) 2011-07-26
93. Ensign Washer 2011-07-25
94. James Cantey 2011-07-22
95. William Powell (Virginia colonist) 2011-07-21
96. John George (Virginia colonist) 2011-07-15 (assessed C)
97. Tyree H. Bell 2011-07-14 (assessed C)
98. William G. M. Davis 2011-07-02 (assessed B, August 21, 2011)
99. James Patton Brownlow 2011-06-21
100. Battle of Vienna, Virginia 2011-06-13 (I did not revise the reference formats or add information about commemorations and memorials, among other subsequent changes.) (assessed B)
101. Battle of Arlington Mills 2011-06-06 (assessed C)
102. List of American Civil War brevet generals (Union) 2011-05-24
103. Battle of Fairfax Court House (June 1861) 2011-05-22 (assessed B, January 17, 2013)
104. John Quincy Marr 2011-05-15
105. Thornsbury Bailey Brown 2011-05-11
106. Fetterman, West Virginia 2011-05-09
107. George A. Porterfield 2011-05-07
108. Battle of Mathias Point 2011-05-04
109. Battle of Pig Point 2011-05-03
110. Battle of Gloucester Point (1861) 2011-04-28
111. Timeline of events leading to the American Civil War 2011-04-02

Category:Irish soldiers in the Confederate States Army

Redirects to substantive articles:

Articles to which I have made a significant contribution, reanimated or rescued; Saved GA Articles

I am not likely to recheck the assessment of the following articles regularly for reasons stated at the end of the previous section. I have not paid much attention to this category in recent years (April 2023) and have just added two. I may have had a few more to add, such as some key editing at the American Civil War article, but it probably would be a time waster to try to find them. I'll just add them as I think that I may have worked on an article where the work was sufficient to merit a mention (if I remember to add it, of course).

Helped entirely or in part to retain GA assessment:

Battle of Prairie Grove February 2023. However, this one does not show on the talk page. I think it was saved while it was still an "Article needing possible reassessment." I can't track it down and have not added a topicon for it.
Battle of Gettysburg Early months of 2023. I have added a good article topicon in line with current barnstars. However, it was an article rescue barnstar. I have not found a way to add a topicon for that.
Darius the Great June 2025.
Flavian dynasty July 2025.
Battles of Lexington and Concord July 2025
Siege of Fort William Henry August 2025.
Edward Porter Alexander August 2025.
P.G.T. Beauregard October 2025.
Siege of Yorktown October 2025.
Battle of Long Island December 2025

Substantial Expansion to B

Camp Douglas (Chicago)

Substantial Expansion or Revision (As of December 2025 this list has not been updated for a few years; I am going to try to remember to add to it, but I probably can't find articles that I revised or expanded in recent years among my many edits,)

Substantial addition to stub - reference(s) and at least two or three paragraphs

A.P. Hill's Light Division
Action at Abraham's Creek - substantial revision of stub
Appomattox Campaign
Battle of Appomattox Station; was already B.
Battle of Big Bethel; was already B.
Battle of Cumberland Church
Battle of Dinwiddie Court House
Battle of Ebenezer Church - substantial revision of stub
Battle of Five Forks
Battle of Lewis's Farm
Battle of Sailor's Creek
Battle of Vaughan Road
Battle of White Oak Road
Blakely rifle
Culper Ring
Last surviving Confederate veterans
Skirmish at Terre Noire Creek - substantial revision of stub
Third Battle of Petersburg

Confederate States Army introduction and prelude section.

Revisions but especially see talk page Battle of Columbus (1865)

Reanimated

George W. Gibbs, Jr. (previously deleted; reanimated)

Rescued

Arrow information paradox

My DYK Articles

DYK from articles created:

Template awards and DYK articles I have revied moved to User:Donner60/DYK. The following list is the DYK text of my DYK articles from the main page:

September 16, 2023 DYK... that after the Battle of Lewinsville, the "Gray Ghost" wrote that he regretted "the glorious opportunity that I missed of winging their colonel"?

May 20, 2018 DYK ... that Union Army general Justus McKinstry, who recommended the appointment of Ulysses S. Grant to his first important command, was soon thereafter cashiered? 4145 page views on May 21-22, 2018.

May 11, 2018 DYK ... that Henry Boynton Clitz, Commandant of Cadets at West Point from 1862 to 1864, disappeared in 1888? 3652 Views in 12 hour posting 0:00-12:00 UTC on May 11, 2018.

May 10, 2014 DYK ...that American spy Anna Strong signaled members of the Culper Ring during the American Revolutionary War with her petticoat? 2,937 page views on May 10, 2014.

August 1, 2013 DYK... that in June 1863, at the Battle of Fairfax Court House (courthouse pictured), 87 men of the Union Army charged a division of at least 2,000 Confederate soldiers? 7,291 page views on August 1, 2013. Lead hook.

May 17, 2013 DYK ...that Richard Buck opened the first session of the Virginia General Assembly at Jamestown, Virginia on July 30, 1619 with a prayer? 564 page views on May 17.

December 30, 2012 DYK ... that Charles W. Adams, a Confederate colonel during the American Civil War, was a grandfather of Helen Keller? 1498 page views December 30; 205 page views December 31.

October 17, 2012 DYK ... that Confederate Major General J.E.B. Stuart's Chambersburg Raid was his second ride around McClellan? 1704 page views October 17.

October 1, 2012 DYK ... that Jeptha Vining Harris, a Mississippi militia general during the American Civil War, was the son of Jeptha Vining Harris, a Georgia militia general during the War of 1812? 989 page views October 1.

September 22, 2012 DYK ... ... that Confederate Colonel William Henry Harman was killed at the Battle of Waynesboro, Virginia, the town where he was born? 973 page views September 22.

September 12, 2012 DYK ... ... that Colonel Joseph H. Tucker, twice commander of the Camp Douglas (Chicago) prison camp during the American Civil War, was never mustered into the Union Army? 1503 page views September 12, 186 page views September 13.

August 18, 2012 DYK ... that the 48th Georgia Infantry Regiment of Confederate Lt. Colonel Reuben Walker Carswell was in a brigade commanded by Carswell's mentor as a lawyer, Brigadier General Ambrose R. Wright? 569 page views.

August 15, 2012 DYK ... that Virginia militia (Confederate) brigadier general Gilbert S. Meem moved to Seattle, Washington, in 1892 and was appointed postmaster by U.S. President Grover Cleveland? 1,033 page views on August 15, 2012. Overlap to August 16: 12.

August 11, 2012 DYK ... that Confederate Colonel Robert Johnson Henderson's division commander persuaded Henderson to sign his parole at the end of the American Civil War as a brigadier general? 1,489 page views, August 11, 2012.

August 5, 2012 DYK... that a brigadier general commission for Confederate Colonel Francis Marion Walker arrived at his headquarters the day after he was killed at the Battle of Atlanta in the American Civil War? 1,251 page views, August 5, 2012.

August 4, 2012 DYK... that Union Colonel James Cameron, killed at the American Civil War First Battle of Bull Run, was a brother of U.S. Secretary of War Simon Cameron? 1,088 page views, August 4, 2012.

July 23, 2012 DYK ... that on January 15, 1861, Florida militia colonel William Henry Chase demanded the surrender of Fort Pickens at Pensacola, Florida, which he had designed and constructed as a U.S. Army captain? 2,142 page views, July 23, 2012.

July 20, 2012 DYK ... that Confederate General John Bell Hood appointed Colonel Moses Wright Hannon an acting brigadier general after Hannon's men seized more than 1,000 cattle from the Union Army? 1,477 page views, July 20, 2012.

July 12, 2012 DYK ... that Confederate Army Colonel Levin Major Lewis was hit by a spent musket ball that stuck in his forehead at the Battle of Lone Jack in Missouri during the American Civil War? 6,369 page views, July 12, 2012. 7,191 page views July 12 and 13, 2012.

July 10, 2012 DYK ... that Confederate Army Colonel Wilburn Hill King acted as a general officer for more than a year but was never legally promoted? 3,190 pages views, July 10 and 11, 2012.

December 28, 2011 DYK ... that Alabama's first superintendent of public education, Confederate brigadier general and college professor William F. Perry, had little or no formal education? 2,430 page views, December 28 and 29, 2011.
2,610 page views between December 17 and December 29, 2011.

December 5, 2011 DYK ... that Confederate brigadier general Alfred E. Jackson was pardoned by President Andrew Johnson because of his kindness toward Johnson's family during the Civil War?" 7,600 page views, December 5 and 6, 2011. 8,401 page views between November 18, 2011 and December 29, 2011.

DYK articles I have reviewed along with DYK icons for DYK articles moved to User:Donner60/DYK.

Hoax article deletions/Page Protection Requests/UAA

Hoax articles existing in main space for a longer period of time than those usually tagged for speedy deletion. I found these, tagged them as blatant hoaxes, explained further on the talk pages and administrators deleted them.

11:04, 9 April 2014 JamesBWatson (talk | contribs) deleted page Battle of Alcovy Ford (G3: Blatant hoax)
10:18, 9 September 2014 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page Battle of Green Marsh (it is a hoax)
03:41 6 January 2018 MelanieN deleted George K. Broomhall created July 22, 2006; Wikipedia:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia/George K. Broomhall

User names (Usernames) for administrator attention: 13 reported and deleted or blocked as of 'March 7, 2026:

Asseaterr420 blocked indefinitely by Paul Erik August 17, 2016.
Abcabc ffuucckkk yyoouu son of a bbiittcch mmootheerffuucckkeer of the hell blocked indefinitely by Materialscientist August 19, 2016.
Nigerslovechicken blocked indefinitely by Acroterion August 20, 2016.
FuckPaintValley blocked indefinitely by DeltaQuad October 31, 2016.
Fuckdonaldtrump blocked indefinitely by Acroterion November 12, 2016.
KikesAndCoons blocked indefinitely by Mojo Hand December 14, 2017.
Donnar60 blocked indefinitely by Widr (vandalism only account) March 15, 2018.
Donner62 blocked indefinitely by C.Fred April 14, 2018.
Trump's Cum blocked indefinitely by Alexf May 21, 2018
Really Donald Trump blocked indefinitely by PresN May 21, 2018
ChrisPensoandMarkGeigerSuck blocked indefinitely by Bongwarrior May 21, 2018
Iwillshitonyou blocked indefinitely by Mz7 January 12, 2020
Pussyprovisioner blocked indefinitely by Gorilla Warfare November 8, 2020
Asseater09 blocked indefinitely by Red Phoenix December 9, 2020

I have made few page protection requests because usually by the time I decide that vandalism to an article is by more than one user and regular countervandalism reverts and reports are insufficient, someone has already made a request. As of March 7, 2026, I have made 27 page protection requests, 27 granted or users blocked. So the user box shows "more than 26." (Plus 1 reported but withdrawn due to no further vandalism after over 30 minutes.)

Page protection request for Unreal Tournament on June 3, 2014 due to persistent vandalism from several IPs contemporaneously. Protected by Go Phightins! until June 7.
Page protection request for Four (One Direction album) on September 9, 2014 due to persistent vandalism by several users. Indefinitely protected by Phil Knight.
Page protection request for Rafael van der Vaart on May 26, 2015 due to persistent vandalism from several IPs contemporaneously. Protected by Go MelanieN for one week.
Page protection request for Dej Loaf on September 9, 2015 due to persistent vandalism from several IPs contemporaneously. Protected by NeilN for one week.
Page protection request for Jaelen Strong on October 9, 2015 due to persistent vandalism from several IPs contemporaneously. Subject was playing in televised NFL game at the time. Protected for two days by NeilN.
Page protection request for Vic Carapazza on October 9, 2015 due to persistent vandalism from several IPs contemporaneously. Subject is an MLB umpire who made one or more disputed calls in yesterday's playoff game. About two hours later protected for three days by Materialscientist who independently saw the vandalism.
Page protection request for Stan Kroenke on January 13, 2016 due to persistent vandalism by several IPs and non-confirmed users. Subject is the owner of the St. Louis Rams NFL team which had just announced a move back to Los Angeles. Semi-protected for a period of 1 week by Jenks24.
Page protection request for Directed-energy weapon on May 24, 2016 due to persistent vandalism by several IPs and non-confirmed users. Semi-protected for 1 week by Gogo Dodo.
Page protection request for Trolls (film) on July 21, 2016 due to persistent vandalism by several IPs and non-confirmed users. Semi-protected for 4 days by NeilN.
Page protection request for Lyndon B. Johnson on September 29, 2016 due to persistent vandalism by several IPs. Semi-protected indefinitely by RU Bob13.
Page protection request for RuPaul's Drag Race: All Stars (season 2). Temporary semi-protection October 7, 2016 to October 11, 2016 by 78.26.
Page protection request for Serangoon Junior College. Temporary semi-protection for 1 week from October 14, 2016 by CambridgeBayWeather.
Page protection request for 2016 World Series. Temporary semi-protection for 2 days from November 3, 2016 by Fuzheado.
Page protection request for Candy cane on November 6, 2016 due to persistent vandalism from several IPs contemporaneously. Enigmaman blocked the vandalizing users.
Page protection request for Miesha Tate. Indefinite semi-protection added by MRD2014 after Utcursch require autoconfirmed or confirmed access indefinitely November 13, 2016.
Page protection request for Nintendo Switch. Indefinite protection requiring autoconfirmed or confirmed access by David Levy as the protection request was being posted January 13, 2017.
Page protection request for Phil Jackson. Temporary semi-protection for 1 week until June 29, 2017 by Bagumba.
Page protection request for Richard Codey. Temporary semi-protection for 1 week until August 5, 2017 by AustralianRupert.
Page protection request for Baltimore Ravens. Temporary semi-protection for 1 month until January 4, 2018 by Muboshgu.
Page protection request for Nationwide Arena. Semi-protected for a period of 3 days by CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq April 20, 2018.
Page protection request for Braden Holtby. Pending-changes protected for a period of 1 month by CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq April 20, 2018.
Page protection request for Tampa Bay Lightning. Temporary semi-protection for one week by Fish and karate May 24, 2018.
Page protection request for Stanley Cup. Temporary semi-protection for 1 month by CasLiber June 8, 2018.
Page protection request for John Leland Atwood. Temporary semi-protection to October 2, 2018 by Ymblanter September 29, 2018.
Page protection request for Nine Trey Gangsters. Temporary semi-protection for 36 hours by Mifter November 22, 2018.
Page protection request for Grimsby Secondary School. Temporary semi-protected until March 7 by Lectonar March 4, 2019.
Page protection request for Sinhala script. Temporary semi-protection for 3 months, autoconfirmed acceptance required by Anarchyte March 14, 2021

One-minute mistaken block

I have no blocks except for the 1-minute (49-second as shown on X-tools as of November 2017) block by mistake described in talk page items shown below. Especially as long as this is the only instance in which it even appears at initial glance (as on the contributions page if one does not click on the link) that I had a block, and despite the triviality of this, I thought I would note my clean record to date (March 7, 2026) by keeping the user boxes above and the following discussion about the mistaken block on this page. This is evident if one clicks on the block log; it also is explained below.

This may seem trivial but it is a matter of personal pride to have a clean block log as long as it exists. One is obviously excluded from certain considerations or lists if a bot or search turns up a block, even a very brief, mistaken one. I was pleased to see in November 2017 that the edit count page showed my "1 block" as 49 seconds rather than 31 hours. Anyone who sees that will now know that a block of such short duration must have been a mistake. While it does not entirely remove the problem that the "block" might still turn up and be counted despite the mistake, as it was in Enterprisey's tool (Asynchronous Admin Score) as of November 2017, although with diminished impact due to its aging.

This happened several years ago and probably does not matter much but it seemed like an undeserved scarlet letter that one must continue to live with when I revised this section in 2018. Donner60 (talk) 06:34, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Oops!

Sorry, misclicked and blocked you by mistake. Obviously you're not a vandal. Trout me as you wish. DMacks (talk) 02:38, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting the block. I was on anti-vandalism patrol and was shocked by the message. I assumed that somehow there had been a mixup between me and someone whom I had been warning. I have never been blocked. Will this show up as a block on my record and, if so, can that be removed? Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 02:44, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

(copied from my talkpage) It is in your block record, along with the one-minute-later unblock with my note "crap, wrong button.sorry!". There is a way to hide blocklog entries, but I was advised by several other admins that this would not be a legit case for using that mechanism. The block/unblock cycle would still be there, just with less detail, whereas now it's very clear that you did not do anything wrong and that the block was a mistake). DMacks (talk) 02:52, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. This talk page item now also shows the mistake. Donner60 (talk) 03:02, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

RfA/RfB Participation

I started to participate in RfA and RfB !voting and comments in September 2013, more than three years from the date I started editing. I have read all of the RfA pages from 2010 to the most recent date for my !votes shown below. Of course, I have read many of these pages after the RfAs were closed. These included the RfAs which ended before I began to !vote, those which have been snow closed and some which I have missed for various reasons. In a few cases, I simply could not decide whether to support or oppose. Most of the RfAs in which I did not participate were because I was offline or simply missed. December 2025 update: I have missed some RfAs during recent years. There have been fewer and fewer for the last six years or so and I was mainly offline for several months. I have voted in the administrator elections since they started.

I !voted neutral on a few of the earlier RfAs in which I have participated when I wanted to lend encouragement to a candidate whose RfA appeared bound to fail or I wanted to make a comment. I now think neutral !votes are not often very useful, and a separate section for comments is now provided so I will rarely if ever post a "neutral". I have opposed a small number of the RfAs in which I have !voted. I might have opposed a few others but I think pile-on opposes are not useful if an RfA is certain to fail. I infrequently may add a support !vote to RfAs, rather than a neutral, even if I see the RfA is likely to fail if I think the failure to pass is especially unwarranted or perhaps that there is enough time and good reasons for a late surge of support. I do !vote early when I see the RfA early and know or can easily check a candidate's demeanor and body of work.

I have rarely, if ever, changed an !vote. In cases where new information might have persuaded me to change a support !vote, that new information will usually quickly swing the percentage to a different result and make a change in my !vote to oppose superfluous or unnecessary. There have been a few RfAs where it became obvious to me from later disclosures that the rationale for my !vote was probably incorrect and I should have !voted the other way or abstained. Usually I remained unaware of the swing in support but I might have seen a few where the result had become a foregone conclusion.

A main consideration for me in deciding whether to support an RfA is the demeanor and attitude of the candidate in dealing with others. I also consider whether the candidate's work overall shows that the candidate is trustworthy, competent and would likely use the tools carefully. I don't expect a candidate to have never made a mistake. It seems that opposition is some times based on a few actions or incidents, often well in the past and some times out of context, which are not representative of the candidates whole body of work and interactions. Otherwise, I have seen enough variation in good candidacies that I have not set out a number of strict minimum criteria in a variety of areas which I expect to be met in every case. Of course, more than a little experience over a short period of time is needed to give some indication of a candidate's abilities, competencies, demeanor, interactions and trustworthiness. Except in rare cases where a candidate brings a good track record and some needed skills, some article creation/content work should be included in a candidate's history.

As of March 7, 2026:
RfAs Supported: (161)
(Administrator election votes not included with RfA number) • Rcsprinter123_2 • Anna_Frodesiak • Kelapstick_2 • Singularity42 • Anne_Delong • Kevin_Gorman • SuperMarioMan • Callanecc
• Little_Mountain_5 • TCN7JM • Cerebellum • Lugia2453 • TLSuda • Cindamuse (R.I.P.) • MER-C_3 • Fourthords • Mattythewhite_2
• Trappist_the_monk • FreeRangeFrog • Grandiose • Mentoz86 • Yaris678 • Hahc21_3 • MusikAnimal • Zad68 • Randykitty • Acather96
• Trevj • Go Phightins! • Deor • StringTheory11 • Solarra • Mkativerata • Philg88 • Dodger67 • GamerPro64 • Jackmcbarn
• I JethroBT • Northamerica1000 • Thomas.W • Samwalton9 • Sarahj2107 • Titodutta • MelanieN • SarekOfVulcan 4 • Fenix down
• EuroCarGT • Jakec • Opabinia regalis 2 • Ritchie333 • Abecedare 2 • NeilN • Ser Amantio di Nicolao • Mdann52 3
• Rich Farmbrough 2 • Ceradon • Cyberpower678 • Cyphoidbomb • Liz • Cyclonebiskit • Ceradon 2 • Wbm1058 • Ian.thomson
• Thine Antique Pen • Yamaguchi先生 • Biblioworm • Vanjagenije • BethNaught • 78.26 • Hawkeye7 2 • Peacemaker67 • Brianhe • Widr
• Amakuru • Maile66 • AustralianRupert • Tavix • Jo-Jo Eumerus • BU Rob13 • Oshwah (2) • Vananmonde93 • Rehman • RickInBaltimore
• Samtar • Godsy • Boson • Ad Orientem • Ivanvector • NinjaRobotPirate • Schwede66 • K6ka • Onel5969 • Ealdgyth • Cyberpower678 2
• Ferret • Mz7 • Primefac 2 • Dodger67 2 • Clpo13 • ONUnicorn • Anarchyte 2 • GeneralizationsAreBad 2 • Cullen328 • Ansh666 • Joe Roe
• Muboshgu • Harrias 2 • 331dot • Cordless Larry • Pbsouthwood • The Sand Doctor • Sro23 • JBHunley • Philafrenzy • L235
• Justlettersandnumbers • Sir Sputnik • JJMC89 • Enterprisey 2 • Evad37 • HickoryOughtShirt?4 • Valereee • Kosack • Floquenbeam 2
• (Sorry to have missed Bradv and Chetsford between Floquenbeam and Izno) • Izno • Hawkeye7 3 • Barkeep49 • Nosebagbear • GermanJoe
• ToBeFree • Dreamy Jazz • Nick Moyes • Cabayi • Lee Vilenski • Cwmhiraeth 2 • Creffett • Ajpolino • Jackmcbarn2 • LuK3 2
• John M Wolfson • Hammersoft • Hog Farm • TJMSmith • BusterD • Modussiccandi • Femke • Extraordinary Writ • ComplexRational • MB
• Spicy • Ingenuity • Novem Linguae • theleekycauldron • Hey man, I'm Josh • 0xDeadbeef • JPxG • Ganesha811 • Clovermoss • Sdkb
• Asilvering • Hog Farm 2 • Worm That Turned 2 • Toadspike • ARandomName123 • (Nine or more in each of the two administrator elections before December, 2025; six more in December 2025)

Neutral: (8)
• Mdann52 • Incnis_Mrsi • Armbrust • Cadillac000 • Voidxor
• APerson (later supported as Enterprisey 2) • Paine Ellsworth • Pvtmoutside • I have not posted neutral votes for many years and probably will not do so often, if ever, again;
usually only good for moral support for future after some improvements

Opposed: (6)
• Jinkinson • TheAustinMan_2 • Arumpostasest • Everymorning • Primefac (later supported Primefac 2 and Primefac RfB) • Wikimayor
• I have not opposed an RfA for many years; there have been a few that I skipped because an oppose would just be a superfluous pile-on

• I have voted in two administrator elections; I think there is no point in noting my secret votes. • I have missed some RfAs in recent years due to being offline, not paying enough attention to them or being neutral.

RfBs Supported: (10)
• Acalamari_2 • Worm_That_Turned • Writ_Keeper • Xaosflux • DeltaQuad • Primefac
• Silk Tork • WereSpielChequers • Jo-Jo Eumerus • Lee Vilenski

Neutral: • none

Opposed: • none

References added to articles with an unreferenced template or no references but no template

Because I noticed that there is a drive this month (January 2016) to add references to unreferenced articles, I decided to add references to some of these articles and to make a list of them. Although I am reasonably sure that I have added references/citations to a few unreferenced articles in the past, I did not keep track of them. As far as I know it would be very difficult and time-consuming to find these (few) articles now, even if I made a note describing the edit in the edit summaries. So I start the list from this date. Donner60 (talk) 09:36, 19 January 2016 (UTC) Perhaps I will add to the list but I have mainly ignored it and probably had little to add because my later additions have been to articles that already have some references. Donner60 (talk) 05:28, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

See Category:Articles lacking sources for current list of unreferenced articles. Donner60 (talk) 06:32, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

I haven't been keeping this up but I think I would have had few additions if I had any to list. If I remember in the future, I will add a qualifying article to which I added a reference to the list. Donner60 (talk) 05:10, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

• 18 January 2016 Transkeian honours system • 18 January 2016 Cedar Island, North Carolina • 18 January 2016 Thermopause ‎• 18 January 2016 Barnaby Woods
• 18 January 2016 Tagbu people • 18 January 2016 William Neil McKechnie ‎• 18 January 2016 Accoutrements • 21 January 2016 Battle of Bolivar Heights • 25 March 2016 Cyzicus (mythology)
• 2 May 2016 Johnson K. Duncan • 22 May 2016 Cottonwood Canyon (Utah) • 22 May 2016 Deacon's Hill • 22 May 2016 Glacier Gardens • 22 May 2016 Vladimír Zoubek
• 5 December 2016 Acid brick• 5 December 2016 Battle of Antivari •11 June 2018 John E. Phelps • 22 June 2018 Aaron Fletcher Stevens
July, 2025: I haven't been keeping this up since June 2018; I am sure I have added many references to unreferenced articles over the years, including during backup drives. I may try to add some examples for the past and restart the list for the future but it is obviously a very low priority.
•

I have not kept this list up, unfortunately for my record of activity. I have participated in recent backlog drives for the military history project and for Wikipedia as a whole. December 2025.

Removed unreferenced template because references present • 18 January 2016 Savoy Estate (infobox items referenced; stub article)

Information

What do you want?
I n f o r m a t i o n.

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You won't get it.

The Prisoner

The first law for the historian is that he shall never dare utter an untruth. The second is that he shall suppress nothing that is true. Moreover, there shall be no suspicion of partiality in his writing, or of malice. - Cicero

My object in mentioning and refuting this story is, by a conspicuous example, to put down hearsay, and to request that all those into whose hands my work shall come not to catch eagerly at wild and improbable rumours in preference to genuine history. - Tacitus, Annals, IV.11

Tempus fugit - Virgil

The lunatic is all idée fixe, and whatever he comes across confirms his lunacy. You can tell him by the liberties he takes with common sense, by his flashes of inspiration, and by the fact that sooner or later he brings up the Templars…There are lunatics who don’t bring up the Templars, but those who do are the most insidious. At first they seem normal, then all of a sudden…” ― Umberto Eco, Foucault’s Pendulum

The nations were caught in a trap, a trap made during the first thirty days out of battles that failed to be decisive, a trap from which there was, and has been, no exit. Barbara Tuchman, 1962.

Wikipedia, in other words, isn't raised up wholesale, like a barn; it's assembled grain by grain, like a termite mound. - Richard Cooke, Wired. February 17, 2020.

Some useful templates

Wikipedia:Template index *[[Category:Inline cleanup templates]] *Template:Hatnote templates *Help:A quick guide to templates

Citation needed: {{Citation needed|date=June 2025}}; {{Citation needed|date=June 2025|reason=Your explanation here}}
More citations needed: {{More citations needed|date=June 2025}} or the common redirect: {{Refimprove|date=June 2025}}<|nowiki> <nowiki>{{More citations needed|section|date=June 2025}} or use the alternative template: {{More citations needed section|date=June 2025}}
Unreferenced: {{Unreferenced|date=June 2025}}; {{Unreferenced|find=World War II|find2=Mediterranean|date=June 2025}}
No significant coverage: {No significant coverage|date=June 2025}}; {{No significant coverage|find=World War II|find2=Mediterranean|date=June 2025}}
One source: {{One source|date=June 2025}}; {{One source|section|date=June 2025}}; {{One source|text=Alternate first sentence|date=June 2025}}; {{One source|section|find=topic search keywords|date=June 2025}}
No footnotes, no inline citations: {{No footnotes|date=June 2025}}; {{No footnotes|section|date=June 2025}}; {{No footnotes|BLP=yes|date=June 2025}}
Failed verification: {Failed verification|date=June 2025}}
Unreliable source: {{Unreliable source?|certain=y}}
Point of view, neutrality questioned: {{POV|date=June 2025}}<nowiki> at the top of the disputed article, then explain your reasons on the article's talk page. To specify the section of the talk page, use <nowiki>{{POV|talk=talk page section name|date=June 2025}}

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- To cite a web page with no credited author: {{cite web |author= |date= |title= |url= |website= |location= |publisher= |access-date=}}
- To cite an online web page that has been archived: {{cite web |last= |first= |date= |title= |url= |website= |location= |publisher= |url-status= |archive-url= |archive-date= |access-date=}}
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Not around template

{{not around|date=August 2014}} From the page Template:Not around "This template may be used on the talk page of a Wikipedia user who has been a longer-term contributor but has not been active on Wikipedia in the past few months/years.

"It is not intended to be used on user pages, or on talk pages of editors who have announced their departure (as the goodbye message is there for everyone to see). Rather, it should be used to inform editors that the user in question has not been active for a long time, and that they may not reply to any messages or questions.

"It is generally not advisable to add this template to the talk page of any Wikipedia user who has stopped editing for a short amount of time. Wait at least three months before listing someone who has simply ceased editing."

Note: Unless I have miscalculated, I wait for a user not to be around for at least a year before placing the template on the user talk page. I may wait longer if the not around time is a little more than a year or if there is a clear pattern of occasional editing (e.g. not just 14 months ago for the only time in several years). I am not on a long term project to place these templates. Most not around users are from just a few pages, and from some early posts on those users' talk pages. My aim is to save users time in trying to contact people who have left Wikipedia and are very unlikely to respond. Also, I don't know if bots might spot these, which might have the presumably good effect of pruning a mailing list.

Recentism, Presentism, Relative Time References

Some editors employ the Recentism tag {{Recentism}} at the top of articles to warn the reader that the content may be tilted toward recent perspectives.
[[Wikipedia:Presentism]] Presentism, judging historical events by current standards, should be avoided. Instead, explain – without undue weight – what reliable sources have said regarding changed standards with respect to the topic.
[[Presentism (historical analysis)]]
[[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch#Relative time references]] Absolute specifications of time are preferred to relative constructions using recently, currently, and so on, because the latter may go out of date....When material in an article may become out of date, follow the Wikipedia:As of guideline, which allows information to be written in a less time-dependent way. The "as of" technique is implemented in the As of {{{1}}}^[update] template; it additionally tags information that will become dated. As of October 2024^[update] produces the text As of October 2024 and categorises the article appropriately. "A new widget is currently being developed" can usefully become something like "a new widget was under development as of 2008" or, if supported by a source, "it was announced in November 2007 that a new widget was being developed" (no need for As of {{{1}}}^[update] template). The 0 template always displays current age when the text is displayed in Wikipedia, but may not be correct for printouts and non-live text: a person born on 25 December 2000 would be 23 [entered as 25] years old now. For example, the template ^[when?] is available for editors to indicate when a sentence, or part of one, should be worded more precisely. The {{Out of date}} template may be used when an article's factual accuracy may be compromised due to out-of-date information.