Talk:Structure fire

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I recommend that this page be deleted. There is no such thing as a "Structural fire", only a Structure fire. I have copied the text from this entry over to the entry for "Structure fire". The words "Structrual Fire" imply that a fire is a part of the structure of something. I think it is pretty clear that fire, in and of itself, doesn't have any redeeming qualities in adding to the structure of anything; fire doesn't have the capacity to support a structure.

Things that are structural are structural beams, structural joists, etc.

If I had known how to use Wikipedia better, I would've requested to move Structural fire to Structure fire, but I didn't.

Please delete this entry. --CeruleanShine 04:25, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to structure fire, the previous talk relates to structural fire. - Bobet 14:31, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This article probably needs a lot of work, but I find it very useful that it exist, as in the many articles about specific building fires, it makes sense to link "fire" to the more-general concept of a building fire, rather than linking directly to fire which is too general. --GregU (talk) 14:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From my point, as a firefighter, the term structure fire means a fire that actually involves the structure; not simply "inside" a structure. There is a distinction between what we call a "room in contents fire" and a "structure fire"; in that the actual supporting members, and structural integrity of the building is compromised because of the fire. Sullivan.t (talk) 19:05, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, there is no reference for where these come from. Are they from a standardized code? Training document? Textbook? Do they apply everywhere, or just in the US? Actually, I can answer that last question. Light timber framing (category V) has been the predominant construction method in single-family houses and smallish suburban apartment buildings in the US for a long time, but both category IV and V are vanishingly rare in many European countries, where brick and concrete block are the main building materials for small residential construction. For instance, a typical house in The Netherlands would have an inner wall made of some sort of large concrete or ceramic blocks surrounded by an outer wall made of traditional brick. Structural timber is mostly found in roof structures and sometimes floors, though mostly in older houses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.67.107 (talk) 14:17, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]