Talk:List MP

It seems to me the main point has to be that defenders of party list systems are arguing local representation systems have the same flaw that defenders of local representation systems are finding in party list systems -- that is, that both systems are equally guilty of forcing voters to choose between supporting a candidate they dislike or voting for a party that is not their first choice. The sentence I deleted is irrelevant because what it says is true of either (and basically any) system -- if you want to support your preferred party vote for that party or its nominee. Clearly, this is possible in local representation systems as well. I'll leave this up for a bit to see what you have to say before I delete again. --Chris 22:09, 2004 Nov 18 (UTC) I'll accept the point, I think — in either system, voters can indeed support their party. What I was trying to say with the sentence, however, is that under a list system, a party's local candidate need not have any influence on a person's support for a party — they can vote for their party even if the party's local candidate is completely unacceptable to them. In a FPP system, for example, a voter may decide to sacrifice their sincere party preference based on who the local candidates are. Would the edit I just made be acceptable? -- Vardion 22:37, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC) I'm willing to agree to that. -- Christopher Parham 22:50, 2004 Nov 18 (UTC)

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It seems to me the main point has to be that defenders of party list systems are arguing local representation systems have the same flaw that defenders of local representation systems are finding in party list systems -- that is, that both systems are equally guilty of forcing voters to choose between supporting a candidate they dislike or voting for a party that is not their first choice.

The sentence I deleted is irrelevant because what it says is true of either (and basically any) system -- if you want to support your preferred party vote for that party or its nominee. Clearly, this is possible in local representation systems as well. I'll leave this up for a bit to see what you have to say before I delete again. --Chris 22:09, 2004 Nov 18 (UTC)

I'll accept the point, I think — in either system, voters can indeed support their party. What I was trying to say with the sentence, however, is that under a list system, a party's local candidate need not have any influence on a person's support for a party — they can vote for their party even if the party's local candidate is completely unacceptable to them. In a FPP system, for example, a voter may decide to sacrifice their sincere party preference based on who the local candidates are. Would the edit I just made be acceptable? -- Vardion 22:37, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I'm willing to agree to that. -- Christopher Parham 22:50, 2004 Nov 18 (UTC)